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39 points by JacksonGariety 14y ago

jmartens 14y ago
I love the idea of putting some skin in the game when posting/voting/etc.
- davidkellis 14y ago
  Agreed. The guidelines (http://thelist.io/guidelines http://thelist.io/guidelines) are nice too: The List is not for: Social media news Traditional news Funny images Angry rants Advice animals Linkbait
manish_gill 14y ago
And yet, front page has the story of Mark Zuckerberg's hoodie. :)
- jmartens 14y ago
  down-vote it then....
citricsquid 14y ago
The apply link is to thelist.dev/apply
- nirvanatikku 14y ago
  -> http://thelist.io/apply http://thelist.io/apply
austenallred 14y ago
The problem with this system is it actively penalizes use. I see the point of wanting users to have skin in the game, but if I had to give up 2% of my HN "karma" to post this comment, I probably wouldn't do so. If you extrapolate that across all users, you may gain more quality content, but using the site would feel like being punished. And with a social news site, your biggest problem is gaining critical mass. The last thing you should do is discourage use in any way. Instead of penalizing those things, you should be using them as a metric for measuring site use. Pinterest, for example, would use "repins" as a way to see how much the users are enjoying their experience. Reddit and HN might use upvotes or comments. What you want is as much content as possible and a good sorting method to weed out the best stuff, which is what HN has. But I could be wrong; we'll have to wait and see.
- udp 14y ago
  And the fact that it's 2% rather than some fixed amount means that it costs established users more to post, and new users less. Which seems somewhat backwards.
  - WiseWeasel 14y ago
    But with more initial karma points, the high-karma user's post would appear before the new user's, giving it a visibility bonus in exchange for the extra karma cost. Seems like a worthwhile trade for high-karma users, though it would skew the most visible content towards that of high-karma users and raise the barrier to entry for new users, for better or worse.
- tferris 14y ago
  The 2% reminds me a little of the ELO system of chess. The stronger you are the higher is your risk (i.e. when playing against a much weaker opponent) which is good. Only because you are sitting on 10K of Karma won't hinder to post crap and opinionated stuff on HN right now. It could keep threads more in balance and bringing refreshing views on old subjects
- RyanMcGreal 14y ago
  I suspect this policy would lead to a Keynesian recession in karma due to a constriction in the circulation of points.
- thaumaturgy 14y ago
  > ...but if I had to give up 2% of my HN "karma" to post this comment, I probably wouldn't do so. But, is that necessarily undesirable? I don't think that a social network should be looking to encourage idle chatter; look at what a cesspool Reddit has become. I'm having trouble seeing a downside to encouraging people to only post when they really have something important or useful or substantial to add.
  - fudged71 14y ago
    You don't always know how valuable your comment is when you post it. That's why being validated through voting is so great. Being penalized for posting an opinion that you don't even know will be popular is not going to end well. In this case, people will only post things that will give them high karma.
lominming 14y ago
How do you fight spam if you essentially gave out your algorithm?
- shurcooL 14y ago
  Security via obscurity will not help much.
tferris 14y ago
Very nice game mechanics since on HN the 'old boys' have some advantages when submitting and commenting. But I would like to know more about you guys and why or how you want to get traction on this before I put myself on the waiting list. Besides: I love the .io TLD, it looks nice and it's typed fast but won't bring you less search traffic since Google haven't ranked it as a generic TLD yet (like .co, .biz, .org, .com, etc.) Another side point: HN lost traffic over time when looking on Alexa, I don't know if this relates to the real traffic though. EDIT: a small note: .io brings you then less search traffic when you try to target more than 1 country/language. If you just target let's say en-us you can set (one) target audience in Webmaster Tools which then would be us-en despite being on .io but if you target more than 1 language then you have a problem since you cannot address multiple targets and you should go with a gTLD or gccTLD. However, if you want to get some decent search traffic choose ALWAYS .com (or at least .net or .org but nothing else, you need much more efforts with other TLDs to rank similar to a .com)
- jmartens 14y ago
  Unrelated question....is .me ranked by Google as a generic TLD?
  - tferris 14y ago
    Wikipedia says yes ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.me ) but to go for sure go to the Google Webmaster Tools and somewhere deep in the menus you can check which TLD are classified as generic EDIT: here is Google's list of gTLDs and gccTLDs (generic TLDs with country code), fresh from Webmaster Tools, so .me is included but as said .io is still not included .aero .biz .cat .com .coop .edu .gov .info .int .jobs .net .mil .mobi .museum .name .net .org .pro .tel .travel .as .bz .cc .cd .co .dj .fm .la .me .ms .nu .sc .sr .tv .tk .ws https://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1347922 https://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#3...
    - jmartens 14y ago
      Thanks.... sorry for hijacking the thread :)
obilgic 14y ago
Why does it cost more for experienced high karma users to post?
- JacksonGariety 14y ago
  When you post, you invest your karma. If you have a lot of karma, your post starts out with more, so the likelihood of front-paging is higher for users who have a track record of quality posts.
  - obilgic 14y ago
    If I have a lot of money, It does not mean that I am willing to invest a lot of money.
vacipr 14y ago
You should really do something about the way comments are displayed.There is too much wasted space.
pbateman 14y ago
I see a few problems with this: * The website doesn't have critical mass or any special hooks (like pg's essays and pg himself, for instance) to help build it * I'm not "applying" to post on a website * Costing people karma is going to drive everything towards a hive mind as soon as possible; if you're going to lose karma by posting you're going to try to make sure that you'll earn that karma back. People are also not going to burn karma making civil responses, everything will become a political performance.
- tptacek 14y ago
  I'm with you, and would be happy to post a bet (proceeds to Watsi!) that none of these invite-only HN clones are going to succeed long term.
  - angersock 14y ago
    What was it Grouch Marx said? "I don't want to belong to any club that would accept people like me as a member"? Edit: Updated caps is from telegram, apparently. Edit 2: Undid caps--sorry everyone. can't take it.
    - thaumaturgy 14y ago
      So, what you're saying is that HN should ban your account? All snark aside, I hope you can see the irony of your comment.
      - tptacek 14y ago
        I am not seeing the irony. HN isn't an invite-only site; it's not a club at all. That's the point.
        thaumaturgy 14y ago
        HN has all the properties of a club, it's just very cheap to get in. It's certainly possible to be kicked out of the club (just ask LoseThos/SparrowOS); so, since HN continues to accept angersock as a member, why is he still here?
desigooner 14y ago
Is it just me or have people stopped testing how the font renders on anything other than a Mac? Don't people believe in cross-platform readability anymore? The font being used looks terrible on a Windows machine (Win 7 with Chrome at 100% zoom). http://i.imgur.com/OmWJiyn.png http://i.imgur.com/OmWJiyn.png
- Xymak1y 14y ago
  Same here.
- tferris 14y ago
  Oh this looks really like living crap. But I'have to admit with everything non-commercial I develop I give a shit on Windows compatibility (it's so hard to test Windows' browsers, either you need some VM running or netbook).
  - icebraining 14y ago
    Testing basic stuff like that is easy, just use one of those "website screenshot" services.
    - tferris 14y ago
      is there any free one around?
      - thaumaturgy 14y ago
        http://browsershots.org/ http://browsershots.org/
      - mwilcox 14y ago
        I recommend Adobe BrowserLab.
- thekevan 14y ago
  Looks fine for me on the latest FF in XP. Also looks good on Chrome 25 in Ubuntu--which I also bet it wasn't tested on.
Skywing 14y ago
The font used on that site is literally broken and unreadable in Chrome, on Windows. It cuts out parts of the letters. For an example of what I'm seeing, here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/e6SVAsY.png http://i.imgur.com/e6SVAsY.png
RexM 14y ago
I'm on Windows, when I have text zoomed at 100% in chrome, I can't read it, at all. 110% makes it readable. Firefox looks ok, but the looks a little strange. Some parts of letters look bolder than others.
jakobe 14y ago
It makes me a bit sad that this is just as unusable on mobile as HN.
- colbyaley 14y ago
  Pushed an update that should fix that.
businessleads 14y ago
Applied to get in? They're listing you publicly: http://thelist.io/applicants http://thelist.io/applicants
- jmartens 14y ago
  One of the great things about the site...get rid of the riff raff
  - businessleads 14y ago
    Holy smokes, Mark Zuckerberg's listed as not even being able to score an invite. This shit is exclusive!
- angersock 14y ago
  Looks like a WASP sausagefest.
enraged_camel 14y ago
One feature that would make me apply right away: no down-voting a comment without commenting on why you down-voted it. In other words, everyone should be required to give a reason when they down-vote a comment.
columbo 14y ago
The problem with any sort of online gamification is you have winners, losers and cheaters. You also have dangerous unexpected consequences. I used to be part of a MUD (yes, go ahead, laugh) back in the 80s and 90s. It just so happened that quite a few of us in town were part of the same game. So we game'd the game. There was about 20 of us and we effectively created our own league. When you are dealing with a game with maybe 100 active people a league representing 20% of the total population was huge. Not only that but we were able to synchronize our events and became the most hated group in the entire system. They wound up banning all the ISPs in our city (but then they opened them back up when their game turned into a ghost town). Karma, badges, points, notoriety are all the same. Phbb and VBulletin (and muds for that matter) have been doing this kind of thing for twenty years. None of it really works all that great. The biggest killer tends to be when people organize (SRS). What happens when enough people organize on this system? A successful community is small, focused and diligent. The next -big- system that will replace reddit/et/al isn't going to be rehashing the karma system or increasing the complexity. Rather it will be smart enough to know who you like and who you dislike. It will deliver you the content and people that you want to engage in, not provide a battle to the bottom where only the most watered down high-school level content is going to pass through the masses.
blissofbeing 14y ago
Any background info on the people/person running this?
- JacksonGariety 14y ago
  We're two high schoolers in Portland who like to build all kinds of things. https://github.com/JacksonGariety https://github.com/JacksonGariety https://github.com/ColbyAley https://github.com/ColbyAley
  - thaumaturgy 14y ago
    Wow, nice work guys. For what it's worth, I think you've got some interesting ideas on tackling online forums; I hope you get enough activity to see how they work out.
orangethirty 14y ago
A better HN would be an HN where some bugs are fixed, and (some) people are a bit more civil. That's it. But nobody is perfect.
notatoad 14y ago
The problem with these high barrier to entry discussion sites is that they lack productive people. The people who have the time and inclination to put up with rules like this spend far too much time posting on internet discussion boards, are far too little time building awesome things (i know this from first-hand experience). The best part of HN is the first-time commenters who have made something awesome and come here to reply in the thread about it. If you put up walls to keep casual users out, you drive all the best posters away.
- RivieraKid 14y ago
  That's a very good point.
xijuan 14y ago
I also see many problems with the karma system and the rules. Like many others have pointed out, if you punish people for postings, people are way less likely to post and a forum without posts are useless. Also the rules for what to posts are way too strict. It is like not allowing students in the class to ask 'stupid' questions;overtime, students will be too afraid to ask any questions.
samwilliams 14y ago
A couple of things to note: - The applicants list features every person's email in plain text (in the 'send x an invite' href). - The list is orderly illogically. As the idea behind this site is that you would sort the best from the worst, having the longest waiting people at the top of the queue until they get picked makes no sense. - As mentioned previously, the applicant link takes you to a non-existent site. Please don't claim to be something you are not. This is by no means a better Hacker News.
ctruman 14y ago
Looks like my user name throws an exception, might want to create some rules and validation on usernames: http://thelist.io/user/chris.truman http://thelist.io/user/chris.truman
- colbyaley 14y ago
  Thanks for pointing that out. This is on our Issues List https://github.com/JacksonGariety/The-List/issues/48 https://github.com/JacksonGariety/The-List/issues/48
JacksonGariety 14y ago
UPDATE ON TWO ISSUES: When you sign up there's now a checkbox to hide yourself from the applicants list. Font smoothing now works on Windows machines so looking at The List should be much nicer for Redmond devotees. (might have to clear cache) Signup link on the docs page links to the right place now.
iuguy 14y ago
I've been thinking that costs for upvotes or comments are probably worth a discussion on HN. The problem with online karma versus offline karma is that for buddhists, offline karma has a real cost in some respects. Yet online karma is just a positive score. If you really had to stake your reputation on a link, would you really post that lolcat?
jswift 14y ago
Question: Why did you choose a single thread comment system over nested comments?
kintamanimatt 14y ago
WARNING If you submit a request and allow it to be public, your email address becomes available for all to see and harvest! Nice idea overall but this is a horrible, horrible flaw.

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jmartens 14y ago

I love the idea of putting some skin in the game when posting/voting/etc.

davidkellis 14y ago
Agreed. The guidelines (http://thelist.io/guidelines http://thelist.io/guidelines) are nice too: The List is not for: Social media news Traditional news Funny images Angry rants Advice animals Linkbait

manish_gill 14y ago

And yet, front page has the story of Mark Zuckerberg's hoodie. :)

jmartens 14y ago
down-vote it then....

citricsquid 14y ago

The apply link is to thelist.dev/apply

nirvanatikku 14y ago
-> http://thelist.io/apply http://thelist.io/apply

austenallred 14y ago

The problem with this system is it actively penalizes use. I see the point of wanting users to have skin in the game, but if I had to give up 2% of my HN "karma" to post this comment, I probably wouldn't do so. If you extrapolate that across all users, you may gain more quality content, but using the site would feel like being punished. And with a social news site, your biggest problem is gaining critical mass. The last thing you should do is discourage use in any way. Instead of penalizing those things, you should be using them as a metric for measuring site use. Pinterest, for example, would use "repins" as a way to see how much the users are enjoying their experience. Reddit and HN might use upvotes or comments. What you want is as much content as possible and a good sorting method to weed out the best stuff, which is what HN has. But I could be wrong; we'll have to wait and see.

udp 14y ago
And the fact that it's 2% rather than some fixed amount means that it costs established users more to post, and new users less. Which seems somewhat backwards.
- WiseWeasel 14y ago
  But with more initial karma points, the high-karma user's post would appear before the new user's, giving it a visibility bonus in exchange for the extra karma cost. Seems like a worthwhile trade for high-karma users, though it would skew the most visible content towards that of high-karma users and raise the barrier to entry for new users, for better or worse.
tferris 14y ago
The 2% reminds me a little of the ELO system of chess. The stronger you are the higher is your risk (i.e. when playing against a much weaker opponent) which is good. Only because you are sitting on 10K of Karma won't hinder to post crap and opinionated stuff on HN right now. It could keep threads more in balance and bringing refreshing views on old subjects
RyanMcGreal 14y ago
I suspect this policy would lead to a Keynesian recession in karma due to a constriction in the circulation of points.
thaumaturgy 14y ago
> ...but if I had to give up 2% of my HN "karma" to post this comment, I probably wouldn't do so. But, is that necessarily undesirable? I don't think that a social network should be looking to encourage idle chatter; look at what a cesspool Reddit has become. I'm having trouble seeing a downside to encouraging people to only post when they really have something important or useful or substantial to add.
- fudged71 14y ago
  You don't always know how valuable your comment is when you post it. That's why being validated through voting is so great. Being penalized for posting an opinion that you don't even know will be popular is not going to end well. In this case, people will only post things that will give them high karma.

lominming 14y ago

How do you fight spam if you essentially gave out your algorithm?

shurcooL 14y ago
Security via obscurity will not help much.

tferris 14y ago

Very nice game mechanics since on HN the 'old boys' have some advantages when submitting and commenting. But I would like to know more about you guys and why or how you want to get traction on this before I put myself on the waiting list. Besides: I love the .io TLD, it looks nice and it's typed fast but won't bring you less search traffic since Google haven't ranked it as a generic TLD yet (like .co, .biz, .org, .com, etc.) Another side point: HN lost traffic over time when looking on Alexa, I don't know if this relates to the real traffic though. EDIT: a small note: .io brings you then less search traffic when you try to target more than 1 country/language. If you just target let's say en-us you can set (one) target audience in Webmaster Tools which then would be us-en despite being on .io but if you target more than 1 language then you have a problem since you cannot address multiple targets and you should go with a gTLD or gccTLD. However, if you want to get some decent search traffic choose ALWAYS .com (or at least .net or .org but nothing else, you need much more efforts with other TLDs to rank similar to a .com)

jmartens 14y ago
Unrelated question....is .me ranked by Google as a generic TLD?
- tferris 14y ago
  Wikipedia says yes ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.me ) but to go for sure go to the Google Webmaster Tools and somewhere deep in the menus you can check which TLD are classified as generic EDIT: here is Google's list of gTLDs and gccTLDs (generic TLDs with country code), fresh from Webmaster Tools, so .me is included but as said .io is still not included .aero .biz .cat .com .coop .edu .gov .info .int .jobs .net .mil .mobi .museum .name .net .org .pro .tel .travel .as .bz .cc .cd .co .dj .fm .la .me .ms .nu .sc .sr .tv .tk .ws https://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1347922 https://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#3...
  - jmartens 14y ago
    Thanks.... sorry for hijacking the thread :)

obilgic 14y ago

Why does it cost more for experienced high karma users to post?

JacksonGariety 14y ago
When you post, you invest your karma. If you have a lot of karma, your post starts out with more, so the likelihood of front-paging is higher for users who have a track record of quality posts.
- obilgic 14y ago
  If I have a lot of money, It does not mean that I am willing to invest a lot of money.

vacipr 14y ago

You should really do something about the way comments are displayed.There is too much wasted space.

pbateman 14y ago

I see a few problems with this: * The website doesn't have critical mass or any special hooks (like pg's essays and pg himself, for instance) to help build it * I'm not "applying" to post on a website * Costing people karma is going to drive everything towards a hive mind as soon as possible; if you're going to lose karma by posting you're going to try to make sure that you'll earn that karma back. People are also not going to burn karma making civil responses, everything will become a political performance.

tptacek 14y ago
I'm with you, and would be happy to post a bet (proceeds to Watsi!) that none of these invite-only HN clones are going to succeed long term.
- angersock 14y ago
  What was it Grouch Marx said? "I don't want to belong to any club that would accept people like me as a member"? Edit: Updated caps is from telegram, apparently. Edit 2: Undid caps--sorry everyone. can't take it.
  - thaumaturgy 14y ago
    So, what you're saying is that HN should ban your account? All snark aside, I hope you can see the irony of your comment.
    - tptacek 14y ago
      I am not seeing the irony. HN isn't an invite-only site; it's not a club at all. That's the point.
      - thaumaturgy 14y ago
        HN has all the properties of a club, it's just very cheap to get in. It's certainly possible to be kicked out of the club (just ask LoseThos/SparrowOS); so, since HN continues to accept angersock as a member, why is he still here?

desigooner 14y ago

Is it just me or have people stopped testing how the font renders on anything other than a Mac? Don't people believe in cross-platform readability anymore? The font being used looks terrible on a Windows machine (Win 7 with Chrome at 100% zoom). http://i.imgur.com/OmWJiyn.png http://i.imgur.com/OmWJiyn.png

Xymak1y 14y ago
Same here.
tferris 14y ago
Oh this looks really like living crap. But I'have to admit with everything non-commercial I develop I give a shit on Windows compatibility (it's so hard to test Windows' browsers, either you need some VM running or netbook).
- icebraining 14y ago
  Testing basic stuff like that is easy, just use one of those "website screenshot" services.
  - tferris 14y ago
    is there any free one around?
    - thaumaturgy 14y ago
      http://browsershots.org/ http://browsershots.org/
    - mwilcox 14y ago
      I recommend Adobe BrowserLab.
thekevan 14y ago
Looks fine for me on the latest FF in XP. Also looks good on Chrome 25 in Ubuntu--which I also bet it wasn't tested on.

Skywing 14y ago

The font used on that site is literally broken and unreadable in Chrome, on Windows. It cuts out parts of the letters. For an example of what I'm seeing, here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/e6SVAsY.png http://i.imgur.com/e6SVAsY.png

RexM 14y ago

I'm on Windows, when I have text zoomed at 100% in chrome, I can't read it, at all. 110% makes it readable. Firefox looks ok, but the looks a little strange. Some parts of letters look bolder than others.

jakobe 14y ago

It makes me a bit sad that this is just as unusable on mobile as HN.

colbyaley 14y ago
Pushed an update that should fix that.

businessleads 14y ago

Applied to get in? They're listing you publicly: http://thelist.io/applicants http://thelist.io/applicants

jmartens 14y ago
One of the great things about the site...get rid of the riff raff
- businessleads 14y ago
  Holy smokes, Mark Zuckerberg's listed as not even being able to score an invite. This shit is exclusive!
angersock 14y ago
Looks like a WASP sausagefest.

enraged_camel 14y ago

One feature that would make me apply right away: no down-voting a comment without commenting on why you down-voted it. In other words, everyone should be required to give a reason when they down-vote a comment.

columbo 14y ago

The problem with any sort of online gamification is you have winners, losers and cheaters. You also have dangerous unexpected consequences. I used to be part of a MUD (yes, go ahead, laugh) back in the 80s and 90s. It just so happened that quite a few of us in town were part of the same game. So we game'd the game. There was about 20 of us and we effectively created our own league. When you are dealing with a game with maybe 100 active people a league representing 20% of the total population was huge. Not only that but we were able to synchronize our events and became the most hated group in the entire system. They wound up banning all the ISPs in our city (but then they opened them back up when their game turned into a ghost town). Karma, badges, points, notoriety are all the same. Phbb and VBulletin (and muds for that matter) have been doing this kind of thing for twenty years. None of it really works all that great. The biggest killer tends to be when people organize (SRS). What happens when enough people organize on this system? A successful community is small, focused and diligent. The next -big- system that will replace reddit/et/al isn't going to be rehashing the karma system or increasing the complexity. Rather it will be smart enough to know who you like and who you dislike. It will deliver you the content and people that you want to engage in, not provide a battle to the bottom where only the most watered down high-school level content is going to pass through the masses.

blissofbeing 14y ago

Any background info on the people/person running this?

JacksonGariety 14y ago
We're two high schoolers in Portland who like to build all kinds of things. https://github.com/JacksonGariety https://github.com/JacksonGariety https://github.com/ColbyAley https://github.com/ColbyAley
- thaumaturgy 14y ago
  Wow, nice work guys. For what it's worth, I think you've got some interesting ideas on tackling online forums; I hope you get enough activity to see how they work out.

orangethirty 14y ago

A better HN would be an HN where some bugs are fixed, and (some) people are a bit more civil. That's it. But nobody is perfect.

notatoad 14y ago

The problem with these high barrier to entry discussion sites is that they lack productive people. The people who have the time and inclination to put up with rules like this spend far too much time posting on internet discussion boards, are far too little time building awesome things (i know this from first-hand experience). The best part of HN is the first-time commenters who have made something awesome and come here to reply in the thread about it. If you put up walls to keep casual users out, you drive all the best posters away.

RivieraKid 14y ago
That's a very good point.

xijuan 14y ago

I also see many problems with the karma system and the rules. Like many others have pointed out, if you punish people for postings, people are way less likely to post and a forum without posts are useless. Also the rules for what to posts are way too strict. It is like not allowing students in the class to ask 'stupid' questions;overtime, students will be too afraid to ask any questions.

samwilliams 14y ago

A couple of things to note: - The applicants list features every person's email in plain text (in the 'send x an invite' href). - The list is orderly illogically. As the idea behind this site is that you would sort the best from the worst, having the longest waiting people at the top of the queue until they get picked makes no sense. - As mentioned previously, the applicant link takes you to a non-existent site. Please don't claim to be something you are not. This is by no means a better Hacker News.

ctruman 14y ago

Looks like my user name throws an exception, might want to create some rules and validation on usernames: http://thelist.io/user/chris.truman http://thelist.io/user/chris.truman

colbyaley 14y ago
Thanks for pointing that out. This is on our Issues List https://github.com/JacksonGariety/The-List/issues/48 https://github.com/JacksonGariety/The-List/issues/48

JacksonGariety 14y ago

UPDATE ON TWO ISSUES: When you sign up there's now a checkbox to hide yourself from the applicants list. Font smoothing now works on Windows machines so looking at The List should be much nicer for Redmond devotees. (might have to clear cache) Signup link on the docs page links to the right place now.

iuguy 14y ago

I've been thinking that costs for upvotes or comments are probably worth a discussion on HN. The problem with online karma versus offline karma is that for buddhists, offline karma has a real cost in some respects. Yet online karma is just a positive score. If you really had to stake your reputation on a link, would you really post that lolcat?

jswift 14y ago

Question: Why did you choose a single thread comment system over nested comments?

kintamanimatt 14y ago

WARNING If you submit a request and allow it to be public, your email address becomes available for all to see and harvest! Nice idea overall but this is a horrible, horrible flaw.