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Oh please. "The reason why there is no shortage of food is there are surplus 'Unrealized' meals, i.e., all the things other than food produced by people who co

by pfedor 14y ago

Oh please. "The reason why there is no shortage of food is there are surplus 'Unrealized' meals, i.e., all the things other than food produced by people who could be producing food instead, if only food was more expensive." (As a side note, I personally have never met or heard of an actually unemployed software engineer, i.e., a person who was able to write code and was looking for a job and couldn't find one. Not only in the US, any of the countries I've lived in. Unemployment in Poland in the early 2000s was at times above 20% and yet I've never heard of an unemployed computer programmer, despite the fact most of the people I was hanging out with were computer programmers.)

devrelm 14y ago
I know at least 2 who were unemployed for some time. But then again, I only know them because my employer is the one who fired them. I think there's something like 5% unemployment amongst computer programmers in the US. Based on experience with (ex-)coworkers, that number can easily be attributed to people who are looking for programming jobs who aren't competent enough to hold a job. In fact, that unemployment number should probably be higher, and I shudder to think what kind of crappy unmaintainable code is being written by those programmers who really should probably be unemployed (or at least in another field.) In short, our need for programmers doesn't come from some lack of people willing to work for a certain salary; it comes from a lack of people capable of doing the job.
Retric 14y ago
There are a lot of talented engineers who have been forced out of the field due to never finding a job after collage. I worked with a guy that had his masters from MIT in engine design who said less than half the people in his program found Engenearing jobs and that was more or less expected. He was doing statistical analysis of criminal behavior. Now Progamers are in much higher demand, but even still the percentage of programmers that stick with it for more than 10 years is fairly low.

by pfedor 14y ago

devrelm 14y ago

I know at least 2 who were unemployed for some time. But then again, I only know them because my employer is the one who fired them. I think there's something like 5% unemployment amongst computer programmers in the US. Based on experience with (ex-)coworkers, that number can easily be attributed to people who are looking for programming jobs who aren't competent enough to hold a job. In fact, that unemployment number should probably be higher, and I shudder to think what kind of crappy unmaintainable code is being written by those programmers who really should probably be unemployed (or at least in another field.) In short, our need for programmers doesn't come from some lack of people willing to work for a certain salary; it comes from a lack of people capable of doing the job.

Retric 14y ago

There are a lot of talented engineers who have been forced out of the field due to never finding a job after collage. I worked with a guy that had his masters from MIT in engine design who said less than half the people in his program found Engenearing jobs and that was more or less expected. He was doing statistical analysis of criminal behavior. Now Progamers are in much higher demand, but even still the percentage of programmers that stick with it for more than 10 years is fairly low.