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That would be a great argument if my peers had formal education or experience with big clients. None of them did. There is no "point" to be made by my post, ra
by kneath 14y ago
That would be a great argument if my peers had formal education or experience with big clients. None of them did.
There is no "point" to be made by my post, rather a description of two vastly different ways I was treated for the same work I was doing during the same point in my life — one online, one in person.
- graeme 14y agoAs an anecdote: I'm 5'6", and I don't think this has been a barrier to anything. I've had to be more careful about my appearance, of course. My clothes fit well, I'm lean, and I work out. Despite my diminutive stature, men get out of my way, because I look strong and I walk confidently. Men didn't do this until I got strong. I get looks from girls all the time. They don't seem to care that I'm in about the 2nd percentile, height wise. Attitude about height is often more important than actual height for a man. Things would probably be easier if I were taller, but being short is far from the insurmountable obstacle it's made out to be.
- bm98 14y agoAgreed, but I think you're selling yourself short on your percentile: http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/set1clinical/cj41l021.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/set1clinical/cj41l021.p...
- jessriedel 14y agoThat's says he's 10th percentile in the US, right? Although that's true, I'm guessing if you corrected for the ethnic and social groups he's judged against that you'd find 2% is pretty accurate.
- graeme 14y agoInteresting, thanks. Hadn't looked up those stats in years and lowballed it as a result. My weight percentile is around 40%. I feel good about that compared to my height percentile, since it's muscle and not fat.
- corporalagumbo 14y agoHow much does it matter to you that you're taken seriously? Does it satisfy you that you intimidate other men and get attention from women?
- graeme 14y agoI don't go out of my way to intimidate men. It's a side effect. It's also an example of how short =! disrespected, as OP was implying.
- tankorsmash 14y agoI'm pretty sure anyone would not be too upset if that suddenly started happening.
- kstenerud 14y agoAll the same, you should be careful about using deductive reasoning in this way. You're assuming that the only criteria upon which you were measured were formal education and experience with big clients, but what about how you struck them emotionally? Did you have that trustworthy/hardworking/whatever air about you that perhaps some of your colleagues had? Did your mode of dress impress them as much as for other candidates? Had the interviewer seen one-too-many people with the exact same qualifications as you, and thus was looking for a little something more that he didn't search for with the other hires before he got desensitized? I'm not saying that it WASN'T height discrimination; I'm just saying that you should be careful about concluding such things so easily.
- enry_straker 14y agoYou might not be saying it, but you certainly are implying it. It's possible to nit-pick potential reasons for bias against some unknown stranger on the internet while discounting his actual experiences and feelings.
- corporalagumbo 14y agoIt's also reasonable to ask whether there is another side to someone's story beyond what they're telling you.
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