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Exactly. I am using Ubuntu without Unity (Gnome3) or the Softwarecenter (aptitude) or Ubuntu One (wtf) for a while now. I must admit i haven't touched Debian a
by buster 14y ago
Exactly. I am using Ubuntu without Unity (Gnome3) or the Softwarecenter (aptitude) or Ubuntu One (wtf) for a while now.
I must admit i haven't touched Debian as a Desktop Operating System for many years but i appreciate the Desktop Experience that is available with Ubuntu out of the box very very much. All _my_ stuff just works (hello binary blob drivers at Debian?), most stuff nowadays has those private package archives, yet i still don't need to run debian unstable to get relatively recent software. I know i have 6 months until a new version comes along, as opposed to many years of waiting. I admit i frequently reinstall Ubuntu (like every 1 or 2 releases), but that's no hazzle while keeping /home. I still get to test btrfs (changed back to ext4 one release afterwards), i still can screw around with the system a little bit.. nahh.. i don't see me going back to Debian on the Desktop.. Ubuntu may be only a redesign of if, but they make it working nicely on my laptop, the community is huge..
I must admit i wouldn't want to sit down an afternoon with Debian to figure out why my graphics is screwed or my Wifi isn't working, etc. Not anymore, it was fine 10 years ago, ,not 2013..
That said, i'd choose Debian as a server OS any time!
- SkyMarshal 14y agoDitto everything. I also use gnome-do launcher and vim keybindings for everything, making my UI 95% keyboard driven and whatever the window manager is irrevelant. Unity? Gnome3? Mate? Etc. Couldn't care less, all the same to me. >private package archives Personal Package Archives [1] actually, but another good point. Between the Debian and Ubuntu repos, Ubuntu PPAs, and the awesome Debian tool Update Alternatives [2], I can install any piece of software, packaged or not, and even multiple versions simultaneously and change the active version with a single command line command [3]. I don't know if the Red Hat or Open Suse ecosystem has something like this, but I'd have a hard time switching to something else without an equivalent. [1]: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA [2]: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.... [3]: https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/tree/master/install/haskell https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/tree/master/install/h...
- micahflee 14y agoWhen was the last time you tried Debian on your desktop? It's much better than it used to be. The only piece of hardware that didn't work out of the box for me was wifi, but I just had to enable the nonfree repo to install my wifi driver. Other than that, it's a lot like Ubuntu.
- buster 14y agoLong time ago, i switched to Ubuntu when it arrived. Besides drivers, i still wouldn't want to fiddle around with unstable repos, apt pinning and those long release cycles on my desktop. Nowadays you get PPAs for most stuff you need, that's nice, too. So there is still some additional value that Ubuntu provides. If not that then the arguably larger "Desktop community". Launchpad is a nice-to-have platform as well, in my opinion.