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>Trust in a US justice system where my data might be? Well, we've seen that plays out. The US justice system scares the hell out of me. So much so that I person

>Trust in a US justice system where my data might be? Well, we've seen that plays out. The US justice system scares the hell out of me. So much so that I personally avoid everything I can that might bring me with in the orbit of the US justice system. And you think this kind of polical anti-US-justice-system rants help you in this? You are already on the top list of potential targets, if not for anything else, just for the above comment. Kidding aside, it's not about the cloud. The cloud is a detail in this discourse. If you cannot trust the justice system or the government you fight, vote, motivate people, organize etc to change them and how they work. Just avoiding this or that (in this case, the cloud) means nothing in the grand scheme of things. They'll get you in another way.

killwhitey 14y ago
>If you cannot trust the justice system or the government you fight, vote, motivate people, organize etc to change them and how they work. Yes, but what if you don't live in the same country as the government you don't trust? Should I try get the people and politicians in the EU to back a war against the US?
- nonamegiven 14y ago
  No, but you might try to influence people not to use US data companies. The best thing that could happen to the US (citizen here) is for the rest of the world to shun our data infrastructure and services. We would then have a chance to see the error of our ways.
pavel_lishin 14y ago
> And you think this kind of polical anti-US-justice-system rants help you in this? You are already on the top list of potential targets, if not for anything else, just for the above comment. You're arguing that to stay safe from the U.S. Government, one ought to abstain from criticizing the U.S. Government? You're right in practical terms, I guess. But this sort of attitude is toxic to democracy.
- pretoriusB 14y ago
  You probably missed the "kidding aside" part, where I write in the middle of my comment "KIDDING ASIDE".

killwhitey 14y ago

>If you cannot trust the justice system or the government you fight, vote, motivate people, organize etc to change them and how they work. Yes, but what if you don't live in the same country as the government you don't trust? Should I try get the people and politicians in the EU to back a war against the US?

nonamegiven 14y ago
No, but you might try to influence people not to use US data companies. The best thing that could happen to the US (citizen here) is for the rest of the world to shun our data infrastructure and services. We would then have a chance to see the error of our ways.

pavel_lishin 14y ago

> And you think this kind of polical anti-US-justice-system rants help you in this? You are already on the top list of potential targets, if not for anything else, just for the above comment. You're arguing that to stay safe from the U.S. Government, one ought to abstain from criticizing the U.S. Government? You're right in practical terms, I guess. But this sort of attitude is toxic to democracy.

pretoriusB 14y ago
You probably missed the "kidding aside" part, where I write in the middle of my comment "KIDDING ASIDE".