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Ask HN: work from home or rent an office?
We're currently 3 people each working from home on two projects, but because we each live with other people there is no convience place to meet up and work together.
Do you think it's worth paying 1000$/month for an office (and pay 6k as advance)? I feel like productivity could massively increase and we'd feel more like were one team working on a common goal. Right now it seems scattered and there's very little accountability.
On the other hand we want to keep costs as low as possible until a certain amount of revenue comes in.
What are your experiences? Has anyone successfully built products (and generated sales) by working remotely together? What are the advantages/disadvantages of renting an office?
- noodle 18y agoyou pretty much nail it. office time is typically more productive. however, if you're paying $1k/mo for 3 people, i'd think you're overpaying. try and find a good coworking space. (i'm been giving thought to setting up a space myself). a good coworking space should theoretically have the benefits of a dedicated office space, but cheaper.
- Xichekolas 18y agoNot sure where you are located, but surely you could find a small studio apartment that you could rent for cheaper than $1k a month. I know my market is cheap, but you can get a 400 sq ft studio here for $400/mo (with everything but electricity and internet included). At this stage it doesn't need to be 'commercial office space' to function as an office. I'd imagine any room that you'd all fit in would be sufficient.
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- flavio87 18y agowhat are your experiences with working in the same place you sleep? isn't it nice to be able to go to an office? Isn't there a risk that you'll start wasting time on stuff you'd never do if you were in an office? I know this is just self-control, but if you can trick urself into being more productive because your in an office environment I feel this could be worth the additional money spent on rent.
- callahad 18y agoI personally prefer a more fluid interaction between my life and my work, but it's important to have concrete delineations between "work" and "life" mindsets. I learned this lesson quite quickly while working as a resident assistant at my university. In a sense, my job, my studies, and my life all took place in the same small room. If I didn't control my space, I wasn't able to be productive, and thus I became stressed. I built a solution around my door. If it was closed, residents couldn't come in, and I couldn't go out. I had to be studying. There had to be a reason that I was isolating myself. If it was open, I had to be interacting with my residents. Running or planning events on the floor, socializing in the lounge, and building stronger connections with the community. I wasn't allowed to isolate myself. Anything in between - browsing the web, reading, or idly poking at work - and the door was cracked. Find a signal and make it known to others, and to yourself. Make sure it has a real impact: you can't collaborate through a closed door. And don't forget to build in time to get away from it all. For a startup compound? Get a bulky desktop computer for work and a sleek laptop for play. Never let them within an arms length of each other.
- mdolon 18y agoAre you guys single or married? Would it be possible to share an apartment? Productivity will definitely increase if you're around each other for 8-10 hours a day but $1000/month seems like a lot if you're trying to keep costs low. Another possibility could be looking into office spaces and startup incubators that rent out small (and crappy) offices for new startups. The rent is super cheap and you usually get fast internet and access to conference rooms. This option depends on where you're located though, as not every city will have these.
- flavio87 18y agoactually live with our parents right now to keep costs even lower ;-) but yeah I've seen incubators for 600$ for a cubicle that would fit in 2 people.
- menloparkbum 18y agoWhere do you live? In SF there is a new art space where you can rent an office space that would fit 3 people for $450/m. It's pretty small, though. I'm talking 3 people at the same big dinner table. I like having somewhere else to work but I don't really like traditional office space. The best spaces I've worked at were a huge loft style apartment and an old house. Thus I'd suggest a shared apartment, BUT: One thing about office space vs. apartment space is that office space is usually much more negotiable than apartment space. You can probably talk away the $6K advance and lower the price. Aside from the times during boom economies and maybe always on the island of Manhattan, office landlords are often borderline desperate. On the other side of the coin, if you're looking at living spaces and suggest to the landlord you're planning on using the apartment for an office, they probably won't rent it to you. So don't mention it. Another thing you can do is sublease a corner of a space where another company got stuck in an overpriced lease last year.
- russell 18y agoRent a two bedroom apartment fro one of you. It will be cheaper than office space and save rent at the same time. Alternative: most cities, towns even, have parks of steel buildings with garage space and a small office, pretty cheap. Also executive suites, they are expensive by the square foot, but cheap overall and you get to use conference rooms, etc.
- omnivore 18y agoCoffee shops ftw. It's like having a ton of offices, all around town.
- srn 18y agoRight now I WFH for health reasons. I have my work laptop in the front room and my personal computer in a different room. Only problem is the wii is in the front room ;) but I am not working full time right now so it's ok. My team for many years had 3 people, all working thousands of miles from each other. If you are in the same town I suggest meeting up on a weekly or daily basis; I would do it at the beginning of the day or week to set goals and parse out work. Also have an IRC or other chat room for when you aren't together.