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This is why you study CS at university before you start work as a programmer. Otherwise you end up being amazed by the basic CS concepts, or worse, you end up r

This is why you study CS at university before you start work as a programmer. Otherwise you end up being amazed by the basic CS concepts, or worse, you end up reinventing them badly.

kachnuv_ocasek 14y ago
Thank God for abstraction.
kmfrk 14y ago
Does studying CS at university make people as insufferably grumpy and unhelpful as you?
- johnsonqq 14y ago
  Come on, I've got a reasonable point here. People post on forums asking these questions which should have been answered during their educations. If civil engineers had a forum site and someone asked "how do I calculate the load a simple beam", people would say, what the fuck are you doing in your job if you don't know that? Who is employing you and why? Where did you go to college? Who was your tutor because next time I'm at a dinner at my college I'm going to ask him how the fuck did they pass you. Our current trend of saying college doesn't matter really starts to be a problem when professional programmers (yeah I'm assuming that the guy in the question is) are asking basic questions like this. This shows that we do need college education for programmers. It also irritates me - this guy could have taken the time to learn all these basics, but for whatever reason he thought it didn't matter, and now he's paying for it.
  - monkeyfacebag 14y ago
    Neither a college education nor continued employment in the field is a requirement to ask a stackoverflow question. In fact, I'd venture to say that a version of stackoverflow where the default answer to everything was "you should have learned this in college" would not be very useful (or used) at all. If you find the discussion beneath you, I suggest that you not participate and find a better use of your time. Others may be getting value from it and I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is a bad thing.
  - cabalamat 14y ago
    Loads of people didn't go to college, and program. Loads of people went to college doing something other than CS, and program. Loads of people haven't yet been to college, and intend to go and do CS, and program. Why do you look down on all these people?
  - brown9-2 14y ago
    Python has a lot of users who are not programmers by profession, but rather mathematicians or scientists or other professions where Python is an excellent tool for getting their main job done. So assuming that only well-educated programmers can have questions about a programming language is asinine. My university education didn't cover coroutines either.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    SO is not a site for software engineers, it's a site for programmers, regardless of their level of knowledge, education or age. And by the way, I'd rather work with fellow programmers who don't know what a coroutine is than with an insufferable elitist like your posts make you out to be.
  - Leszek 14y ago
    One of the false assumptions you're making here is that CS == programming. There's a difference between being a civil engineer, where you have to be able to calculate loads on beams, and being a physicist, where you try to understand why beams behave the way they do.
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jarin 14y ago
It is pretty awesome to be privileged and living in an affluent country, eh?
josephlord 14y ago
It is one thing suggesting it is unwise to develop a new language without a CS background or broad and deep experience with other languages of some form as you might end up with something like PHP but there are plenty of ideas to develop that a CS background helps fairly little. Generally curiosity and willingness to learn is worth more.
bthomas 14y ago
FWIW I majored in computer science at a major school, though admittedly I was a shitty student. I spent more time building things than going to class.

This is why you study CS at university before you start work as a programmer. Otherwise you end up being amazed by the basic CS concepts, or worse, you end up reinventing them badly.

kachnuv_ocasek 14y ago

Thank God for abstraction.

kmfrk 14y ago

Does studying CS at university make people as insufferably grumpy and unhelpful as you?

johnsonqq 14y ago
Come on, I've got a reasonable point here. People post on forums asking these questions which should have been answered during their educations. If civil engineers had a forum site and someone asked "how do I calculate the load a simple beam", people would say, what the fuck are you doing in your job if you don't know that? Who is employing you and why? Where did you go to college? Who was your tutor because next time I'm at a dinner at my college I'm going to ask him how the fuck did they pass you. Our current trend of saying college doesn't matter really starts to be a problem when professional programmers (yeah I'm assuming that the guy in the question is) are asking basic questions like this. This shows that we do need college education for programmers. It also irritates me - this guy could have taken the time to learn all these basics, but for whatever reason he thought it didn't matter, and now he's paying for it.
- monkeyfacebag 14y ago
  Neither a college education nor continued employment in the field is a requirement to ask a stackoverflow question. In fact, I'd venture to say that a version of stackoverflow where the default answer to everything was "you should have learned this in college" would not be very useful (or used) at all. If you find the discussion beneath you, I suggest that you not participate and find a better use of your time. Others may be getting value from it and I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is a bad thing.
- cabalamat 14y ago
  Loads of people didn't go to college, and program. Loads of people went to college doing something other than CS, and program. Loads of people haven't yet been to college, and intend to go and do CS, and program. Why do you look down on all these people?
- brown9-2 14y ago
  Python has a lot of users who are not programmers by profession, but rather mathematicians or scientists or other professions where Python is an excellent tool for getting their main job done. So assuming that only well-educated programmers can have questions about a programming language is asinine. My university education didn't cover coroutines either.
- icebraining 14y ago
  SO is not a site for software engineers, it's a site for programmers, regardless of their level of knowledge, education or age. And by the way, I'd rather work with fellow programmers who don't know what a coroutine is than with an insufferable elitist like your posts make you out to be.
- Leszek 14y ago
  One of the false assumptions you're making here is that CS == programming. There's a difference between being a civil engineer, where you have to be able to calculate loads on beams, and being a physicist, where you try to understand why beams behave the way they do.

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jarin 14y ago

It is pretty awesome to be privileged and living in an affluent country, eh?

josephlord 14y ago

It is one thing suggesting it is unwise to develop a new language without a CS background or broad and deep experience with other languages of some form as you might end up with something like PHP but there are plenty of ideas to develop that a CS background helps fairly little. Generally curiosity and willingness to learn is worth more.

bthomas 14y ago

FWIW I majored in computer science at a major school, though admittedly I was a shitty student. I spent more time building things than going to class.