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And here I am, having none of these things, posting on HN from a very reasonable (will I ever be stop looking for better things?) and well-payed development job

And here I am, having none of these things, posting on HN from a very reasonable (will I ever be stop looking for better things?) and well-payed development job. So, two things. 1) You claimed that an apprenticeship is only for crafts and I told you that this isn't the case here. Locally your 'strictly craft skills' comment would be wrong. Very much so. 2) Yeah, a degree matters in some/most places, like everywhere else in the world I guess. That's not related to apprenticeships in particular though (having done stuff like that is better than having nothing of value in writing at all, like .. me). And too general to be 'truthy'. Back to the topic: Apprentices (and former apprentices) are not unable to do the job of an engineer.

walshemj 14y ago
well you have to look at the wider picture Germany is rare (almost unique) in that engineers are looked up to as the equivelent or a doctor and lawyer. And how many senior engineers at Audi and BMW and Mercedes started as apprentices. In the English speaking word this is not the case we are look upon as greasy almost sub human. for example the wife of the no2 at bt labs you know the place where the first computer was designed and built when she said that he husband was an engineer she was asked patronizingly "oh thats nice dear what sort of cars does he work on"