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I've always found HN to be pro-college, so I'm not sure why you think people have something against it. However, someone who has a demonstrated college-level ed

I've always found HN to be pro-college, so I'm not sure why you think people have something against it. However, someone who has a demonstrated college-level education without direction shows extreme motivation, and ability to adapt to adversity. Going to college is the easy way out, so to speak. Of course the attributes you list are valuable too. I don't think you can say one is better than other. You will find great and not so great people in both groups. As always, you need to evaluate the individual, not the piece of paper.

jlgreco 14y ago
There is certainly the other side of the coin, as you point out. Which is better depends heavily on perspective, so yeah, I'll accept that one is probably not definitively better than the other. I do think that they are certainly different though. It should not be the same piece of paper because both routes, regardless of relative merits, are very different animals.