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I wonder if the font size issue is because of display resolution. It looks perfect on my screen, but I usually have to zoom into pages to make them readable.

by ahi 14y ago

kmfrk 14y ago
I imagine it'd look fine on a MacBook Air. It doesn't on a 23" monitor, that's for sure. I want to believe that the people behind it didn't bother to test it on different viewports, but I have created websites that look fine on everything from iPhones to large monitors without writing viewport-specific CSS. It just seems incredibly sloppy, which is hard to believe for a company like ALA.
- bryne 14y ago
  It's much more likely that you're creating websites that fail accessibility guidelines and that many people are forced to zoom in to read. 100%/16px is standard for article body copy.
  - Silhouette 14y ago
    The intro in the linked article is set with a 24px font size and 960px width. For me, on a good desktop screen, that is uncomfortably large on both counts for a full paragraph of body text. The main part of the article, set at 18px with about 700px width, is sensible IMHO.
- DanBC 14y ago
  > but I have created websites that look fine on everything Just checking, but really "look fine on everything", or "need to be zoomed in by many people"?
  - kmfrk 14y ago
    Nah, it looks fine. You can zoom in, if you want, of course, but it's entirely readable on a retina screen. Of course, those have been very sparse in layout such as blogs, so it's not a solution that fits all, but in a case like this, it would work just as well. A site like Hacker News obviously needs optimization for different viewports.
    - DanBC 14y ago
      > You can zoom in, if you want, of course, It's pleasing to be in a situation where I can say (about ALA5.0) "you can zoom out, if you want, of course" :p
- oulipian 14y ago
  The home page looks terrible on my 13" Macbook Pro, the illustration takes up almost the entire screen. Everything feels oversized and unbalanced.
keithpeter 14y ago
1080p monitor, full screen, 96 pixels to the nominal 'inch'. Looks nice actually. Its that header...
osks 14y ago
It probably does. On my 13" MacBook I need to zoom out to read A List Apart now. If I zoom out two steps in Firefox it takes the font size from 18px to ~14px (guess), which is much more comfortable to read. It's sad that we haven't gotten further with typography on the web. The solution to "some people have to zoom in" should't be "other people have to zoom out".

I wonder if the font size issue is because of display resolution. It looks perfect on my screen, but I usually have to zoom into pages to make them readable.

by ahi 14y ago

I wonder if the font size issue is because of display resolution. It looks perfect on my screen, but I usually have to zoom into pages to make them readable.

kmfrk 14y ago

I imagine it'd look fine on a MacBook Air. It doesn't on a 23" monitor, that's for sure. I want to believe that the people behind it didn't bother to test it on different viewports, but I have created websites that look fine on everything from iPhones to large monitors without writing viewport-specific CSS. It just seems incredibly sloppy, which is hard to believe for a company like ALA.

bryne 14y ago
It's much more likely that you're creating websites that fail accessibility guidelines and that many people are forced to zoom in to read. 100%/16px is standard for article body copy.
- Silhouette 14y ago
  The intro in the linked article is set with a 24px font size and 960px width. For me, on a good desktop screen, that is uncomfortably large on both counts for a full paragraph of body text. The main part of the article, set at 18px with about 700px width, is sensible IMHO.
DanBC 14y ago
> but I have created websites that look fine on everything Just checking, but really "look fine on everything", or "need to be zoomed in by many people"?
- kmfrk 14y ago
  Nah, it looks fine. You can zoom in, if you want, of course, but it's entirely readable on a retina screen. Of course, those have been very sparse in layout such as blogs, so it's not a solution that fits all, but in a case like this, it would work just as well. A site like Hacker News obviously needs optimization for different viewports.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    > You can zoom in, if you want, of course, It's pleasing to be in a situation where I can say (about ALA5.0) "you can zoom out, if you want, of course" :p
oulipian 14y ago
The home page looks terrible on my 13" Macbook Pro, the illustration takes up almost the entire screen. Everything feels oversized and unbalanced.

keithpeter 14y ago

1080p monitor, full screen, 96 pixels to the nominal 'inch'. Looks nice actually. Its that header...

osks 14y ago

It probably does. On my 13" MacBook I need to zoom out to read A List Apart now. If I zoom out two steps in Firefox it takes the font size from 18px to ~14px (guess), which is much more comfortable to read. It's sad that we haven't gotten further with typography on the web. The solution to "some people have to zoom in" should't be "other people have to zoom out".