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I can not comment on things I did not see. As I said, I read the article (and the posted video), didn't know the details or the story beforehand. I'm not usuall

by guylhem 14y ago

I can not comment on things I did not see. As I said, I read the article (and the posted video), didn't know the details or the story beforehand. I'm not usually interested in gossip - but with the news, it was interesting to try and understand the reasons of what looks like another suicide. In the video, I see him breaking bricks and lifting weights, armwrestling etc. All this is quite possible for me, and no reason to be ridiculed against. Physical prowess is a good thing! The rest I don't know, and considering the "media fame" and joking aspects you mention, unless the claims are directly attributed to him by verifiable sources, I would call them hearsay.

EvanKelly 14y ago
I'm really not trying to drag Vayner through the mud any more than he already has been, but I thought I'd clarify why I think he was ridiculed. The ridicule against Vayner wasn't because he played tennis, lifted weights, practiced karate, or ballroom danced. The ridicule existed because he compiled these accomplishments into a video resume which he sent to UBS. He was ridiculed because he thought this was the best way to present himself to a potential employer and to many, came across as egotistical and pretentious. This video alone was enough to go viral, but add to it the fact that there was evidence that a lot of the claims in his video and resume were falsified makes the story even more outrageous.
saraid216 14y ago
> As I said, I read the article (and the posted video), didn't know the details or the story beforehand. I went straight to Wikipedia, which at least tends to have decent citations to follow. While it doesn't seem like anyone has a copy of his resume, the at-the-time President of Charity Navigator [1] says he literally lied on it [2]. I don't really see why Stamp would weigh in unless such a claim had actually been made, and Stamp's call for expulsion doesn't appear to have been rescinded. [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071012124658/http://charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=19 http://web.archive.org/web/20071012124658/http://charitynavi... [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20070929071909/http://www.trentstampstake.org/2006/10/im-not-laughing.html http://web.archive.org/web/20070929071909/http://www.trentst...
- droithomme 14y ago
  Here's his résumé, which you ask about: http://web.archive.org/web/20070222123930/http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/vayner.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20070222123930/http://www.ivygate... Here's an article about his sister, who has been successful since age 22 investing in real estate: http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/04/real_estate/investment_prop/tycoongarber/index.htm http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/04/real_estate/investment_prop/... She's relevant because an address she owns was used as the address of the charity. There's no evidence she knew what he was up to. Students who know him considered it all to be a joke or at least not malicious: http://web.archive.org/web/20080422030103/http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/18308?badlink=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20080422030103/http://www.yaledai... > But Won Chai ’07 said that while Charity Navigator has a right to be upset with Vayner, he thinks the humor of Vayner’s resume should be appreciated. > “I think clearly he was trying to play a practical joke or just trying to draw attention to himself,” he said. “Whether or not it was a good thing or not, I couldn’t say. People seemed to be enjoying it. I-bankers are forwarding this stuff to each other. Maybe it’s good for a laugh now and again.” > Pieter Morgan ’09, who has lifted weights with Vayner, said he thinks Vayner often makes seemingly unbelievable claims because he genuinely believes them to be true. Morgan said he thinks Vayner is a genuine person, despite his penchant for seemingly implausible stories. > “I think it’s like in ‘A Beautiful Mind’ with Russell Crowe,” Morgan said. “When he tells you these stories, it’s completely genuine, which is what is completely amazing. He’ll tell you with a completely straight face that he knows the Dalai Lama, and he is completely serious. I think he is fundamentally a nice guy.” Here's his charity site which seems to only have been active in November 2006. There was a web comment that mentioned that he used these sites to get girls and was apparently quite a player. http://web.archive.org/web/20061129145614/http://www.empowerachild.org/web/ http://web.archive.org/web/20061129145614/http://www.empower...

by guylhem 14y ago

EvanKelly 14y ago

I'm really not trying to drag Vayner through the mud any more than he already has been, but I thought I'd clarify why I think he was ridiculed. The ridicule against Vayner wasn't because he played tennis, lifted weights, practiced karate, or ballroom danced. The ridicule existed because he compiled these accomplishments into a video resume which he sent to UBS. He was ridiculed because he thought this was the best way to present himself to a potential employer and to many, came across as egotistical and pretentious. This video alone was enough to go viral, but add to it the fact that there was evidence that a lot of the claims in his video and resume were falsified makes the story even more outrageous.

saraid216 14y ago

> As I said, I read the article (and the posted video), didn't know the details or the story beforehand. I went straight to Wikipedia, which at least tends to have decent citations to follow. While it doesn't seem like anyone has a copy of his resume, the at-the-time President of Charity Navigator [1] says he literally lied on it [2]. I don't really see why Stamp would weigh in unless such a claim had actually been made, and Stamp's call for expulsion doesn't appear to have been rescinded. [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071012124658/http://charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=19 http://web.archive.org/web/20071012124658/http://charitynavi... [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20070929071909/http://www.trentstampstake.org/2006/10/im-not-laughing.html http://web.archive.org/web/20070929071909/http://www.trentst...

droithomme 14y ago
Here's his résumé, which you ask about: http://web.archive.org/web/20070222123930/http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/vayner.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20070222123930/http://www.ivygate... Here's an article about his sister, who has been successful since age 22 investing in real estate: http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/04/real_estate/investment_prop/tycoongarber/index.htm http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/04/real_estate/investment_prop/... She's relevant because an address she owns was used as the address of the charity. There's no evidence she knew what he was up to. Students who know him considered it all to be a joke or at least not malicious: http://web.archive.org/web/20080422030103/http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/18308?badlink=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20080422030103/http://www.yaledai... > But Won Chai ’07 said that while Charity Navigator has a right to be upset with Vayner, he thinks the humor of Vayner’s resume should be appreciated. > “I think clearly he was trying to play a practical joke or just trying to draw attention to himself,” he said. “Whether or not it was a good thing or not, I couldn’t say. People seemed to be enjoying it. I-bankers are forwarding this stuff to each other. Maybe it’s good for a laugh now and again.” > Pieter Morgan ’09, who has lifted weights with Vayner, said he thinks Vayner often makes seemingly unbelievable claims because he genuinely believes them to be true. Morgan said he thinks Vayner is a genuine person, despite his penchant for seemingly implausible stories. > “I think it’s like in ‘A Beautiful Mind’ with Russell Crowe,” Morgan said. “When he tells you these stories, it’s completely genuine, which is what is completely amazing. He’ll tell you with a completely straight face that he knows the Dalai Lama, and he is completely serious. I think he is fundamentally a nice guy.” Here's his charity site which seems to only have been active in November 2006. There was a web comment that mentioned that he used these sites to get girls and was apparently quite a player. http://web.archive.org/web/20061129145614/http://www.empowerachild.org/web/ http://web.archive.org/web/20061129145614/http://www.empower...