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This is the exact kind of blocking I was thinking of. Merely blocking the domain would be enough to prevent access from basic users but maybe not knowledgeable

This is the exact kind of blocking I was thinking of. Merely blocking the domain would be enough to prevent access from basic users but maybe not knowledgeable pirates, similar to what has happened with The Pirate Bay in the UK and ISP's blocking access to it.

sp332 14y ago
But blocking that domain in the UK did nothing to slow bittorrent traffic, according to several sources. http://torrentfreak.com/censoring-the-pirate-bay-is-futile-isps-reveal-120711/ http://torrentfreak.com/censoring-the-pirate-bay-is-futile-i...
- DigitalSea 14y ago
  Yeah, it was circumvented Pretty quickly. You can't outsmart a pirate. It's a good example of a government trying to restrict what it's citizens can do however, even if it failed the government tried to block access in the first place.
  - benologist 14y ago
    You can't outsmart a pirate. You should share that theory with the ones they put in prison and the many they've successfully sued. It's literally irrelevant if you don't like their results, it's malicious if you encourage others to be ignorant.
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      >You should share that theory with the ones they put in prison and the many they've successfully sued. Which are a tiny, microscopic even, minority of people who pirate.
      - benologist 14y ago
        You're right - they haven't figured out how to sue everyone at once so people are indeed outsmarting them by clicking links on TPB proxies!
  - finnw 14y ago
    It's worth mentioning that it was not the UK governmnent that ordered the block; It was a judge (not as bad IMO.)
  - illuminate 14y ago
    "You can't outsmart a pirate." You can't generally bludgeon them with force, you can't outsmart them forever, but sure. People can and do outsmart pirates, it's just rare and those "combatting" usually aren't creative or empowered enough to make the right (er, effective?) decisions.
andyakb 14y ago
have they [the US gov't] ever done this for any website?
- DigitalSea 14y ago
  I can't think of a situation where they've ever needed too. With exception of Antigua and perhaps a few other obscure countries there doesn't appear to be a distance the IFPI's arms don't reach as shown in the Pirate Bay situation and what has happened to its founders and is continually ongoing. This situation is very much different. They don't have the government in their pockets this time around like all other major copyright cases before them which is why this situation is super interesting.

sp332 14y ago

But blocking that domain in the UK did nothing to slow bittorrent traffic, according to several sources. http://torrentfreak.com/censoring-the-pirate-bay-is-futile-isps-reveal-120711/ http://torrentfreak.com/censoring-the-pirate-bay-is-futile-i...

DigitalSea 14y ago
Yeah, it was circumvented Pretty quickly. You can't outsmart a pirate. It's a good example of a government trying to restrict what it's citizens can do however, even if it failed the government tried to block access in the first place.
- benologist 14y ago
  You can't outsmart a pirate. You should share that theory with the ones they put in prison and the many they've successfully sued. It's literally irrelevant if you don't like their results, it's malicious if you encourage others to be ignorant.
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    >You should share that theory with the ones they put in prison and the many they've successfully sued. Which are a tiny, microscopic even, minority of people who pirate.
    - benologist 14y ago
      You're right - they haven't figured out how to sue everyone at once so people are indeed outsmarting them by clicking links on TPB proxies!
- finnw 14y ago
  It's worth mentioning that it was not the UK governmnent that ordered the block; It was a judge (not as bad IMO.)
- illuminate 14y ago
  "You can't outsmart a pirate." You can't generally bludgeon them with force, you can't outsmart them forever, but sure. People can and do outsmart pirates, it's just rare and those "combatting" usually aren't creative or empowered enough to make the right (er, effective?) decisions.

andyakb 14y ago

have they [the US gov't] ever done this for any website?

DigitalSea 14y ago
I can't think of a situation where they've ever needed too. With exception of Antigua and perhaps a few other obscure countries there doesn't appear to be a distance the IFPI's arms don't reach as shown in the Pirate Bay situation and what has happened to its founders and is continually ongoing. This situation is very much different. They don't have the government in their pockets this time around like all other major copyright cases before them which is why this situation is super interesting.