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Whaaat, SMTP != Instant Delivery!? You must be joking! As much as i can understand the pain of an email not being delivered after 2 hours this seems to be too

by buster 14y ago

Whaaat, SMTP != Instant Delivery!? You must be joking! As much as i can understand the pain of an email not being delivered after 2 hours this seems to be too much drama. "happens 2 times in a month" is not a "major problem" for a free service especially since i suppose this user is part of a rather small minority. I never noticed substantial delivery lags myself over the past years myself. Anyway, if you say "i'd pay 50$/month" please email me, i'll be happy to provide you with a very overprized mail account with same-second delivery! :)

sskates 14y ago
As funny as you think it might be to charge $50 a month for guaranteed quick delivery, this is exactly what he actually wants. Large random delays in delivery are costing him way more, so he's willing to pay to fix the pain. Instant delivery isn't in the RFC, but conformance with the spec is not something he cares about. He cares about fast delivery.
- buster 14y ago
  Just as you say: What he wants and what he has have nothing to do with each other. I want my pocket to contain 1 million dollar. It's not how it works, unfortunately :( Look, there are many many reasons why an email may not arrive in time or at all at the destination. To say "i lose so much money but i rely on such an unreliable protocol" is just not the mistake of google. And as i said, for 50$ dollar you can easily buy 2 virtual machines in two different locations, one domain and have virtually a no-downtime mail service for your own. Add some roundcube, clamav, spamassassin and there you go. Setup takes a bit, fine, but that's about it. I guess it wouldn't even take that long. It won't guarantee delivery as well, but mails won't be stuck in some MTA ;)
  - mseebach 14y ago
    That's assuming your time is worth nothing. Also, there's much more to reliability than having servers in more than one location.
- epochwolf 14y ago
  > He cares about fast delivery. Then he can find a better solution than email. Make a phone call and upload a file via sftp to a remote server. That's how I do deployments here at Insurasoft™.

by buster 14y ago

sskates 14y ago

As funny as you think it might be to charge $50 a month for guaranteed quick delivery, this is exactly what he actually wants. Large random delays in delivery are costing him way more, so he's willing to pay to fix the pain. Instant delivery isn't in the RFC, but conformance with the spec is not something he cares about. He cares about fast delivery.

buster 14y ago
Just as you say: What he wants and what he has have nothing to do with each other. I want my pocket to contain 1 million dollar. It's not how it works, unfortunately :( Look, there are many many reasons why an email may not arrive in time or at all at the destination. To say "i lose so much money but i rely on such an unreliable protocol" is just not the mistake of google. And as i said, for 50$ dollar you can easily buy 2 virtual machines in two different locations, one domain and have virtually a no-downtime mail service for your own. Add some roundcube, clamav, spamassassin and there you go. Setup takes a bit, fine, but that's about it. I guess it wouldn't even take that long. It won't guarantee delivery as well, but mails won't be stuck in some MTA ;)
- mseebach 14y ago
  That's assuming your time is worth nothing. Also, there's much more to reliability than having servers in more than one location.
epochwolf 14y ago
> He cares about fast delivery. Then he can find a better solution than email. Make a phone call and upload a file via sftp to a remote server. That's how I do deployments here at Insurasoft™.