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I don't necessarily choose it, I just don't go out of my way (like most people) to be nice. I would argue, that what makes me who I am (a driven, passionate pe

by zeeg 14y ago

I don't necessarily choose it, I just don't go out of my way (like most people) to be nice. I would argue, that what makes me who I am (a driven, passionate person) also leads to traits like being honestly vocal about things. Whether the way these things are presented is directly related or not is a little bit different. If I see something I don't like, whether it's on the internet, at work, or just in general, I will usually say I don't like it. Now Twitter doesn't make a great means of communication for things like this (e.g. you can really provide much insight, or realistically follow up), it does make it easy. I would argue that people who are unwilling to give their opinion (and I know that there's many on both sides of everything, that are quiet), are simply forcing themselves into an uncomfortable situation. Often you (or rather I) will deal with the results of your opinion, but for the freedom it offers, and the drive it gives me, I'll stick by it. That said, I admire Heather for doing something, but I am rather unhappy that the result of this was a (IMO, unnecessary) blog post, a ton of ignorant comments on the internet, and more importantly, people attempting to turn the situation into something it isnt.

rosser 14y ago
...and more importantly, people attempting to turn the situation into something it isnt. The only party I've seen so far actually trying to make this storm in a teacup into anything other than what it is — namely, people being assholes on the internet — is you, with your weak, if persistent, attempts to make it about gender. It's not, it never was, and I'm pretty sure you know that, so playing that card is cheap and dishonest, at best. I'm no psychologist, but to my mind, that kind of behavior absolutely reeks of awareness that the thing you're trying to make be about something else wasn't kosher in the first place.
- keppy 14y ago
  People give me shit about code and no one cares because I'm like everyone else here--male and single :(
blibble 14y ago
being driven and passionate, and having the social skills to be able criticise without upsetting people are not mutually exclusive.
tunesmith 14y ago
"If I see something I don't like, whether it's on the internet, at work, or just in general, I will usually say I don't like it." Regarding the views of the larger public who don't know you, who cares what your feelings are? If your goal is to reflect your driven, passionate, intelligent nature to affect the public, then what's more relevant is WHY you don't like it - what, specifically is problematic in your experience. Getting to that point isn't white-lie, pc, or bending over backward to be polite - it's simply more relevant. Utility-wise, isn't it more efficient to share that stuff, and just skip the "it sucks, it stinks, it's awful" comments? I don't know how you actually communicate since I haven't noticed other comments of yours but in general it seems to me that there's a major difference between venting and informative criticism - and mixing them can definitely reduce your efficiency in positively affecting others.

by zeeg 14y ago

rosser 14y ago

...and more importantly, people attempting to turn the situation into something it isnt. The only party I've seen so far actually trying to make this storm in a teacup into anything other than what it is — namely, people being assholes on the internet — is you, with your weak, if persistent, attempts to make it about gender. It's not, it never was, and I'm pretty sure you know that, so playing that card is cheap and dishonest, at best. I'm no psychologist, but to my mind, that kind of behavior absolutely reeks of awareness that the thing you're trying to make be about something else wasn't kosher in the first place.

keppy 14y ago
People give me shit about code and no one cares because I'm like everyone else here--male and single :(

blibble 14y ago

being driven and passionate, and having the social skills to be able criticise without upsetting people are not mutually exclusive.

tunesmith 14y ago

"If I see something I don't like, whether it's on the internet, at work, or just in general, I will usually say I don't like it." Regarding the views of the larger public who don't know you, who cares what your feelings are? If your goal is to reflect your driven, passionate, intelligent nature to affect the public, then what's more relevant is WHY you don't like it - what, specifically is problematic in your experience. Getting to that point isn't white-lie, pc, or bending over backward to be polite - it's simply more relevant. Utility-wise, isn't it more efficient to share that stuff, and just skip the "it sucks, it stinks, it's awful" comments? I don't know how you actually communicate since I haven't noticed other comments of yours but in general it seems to me that there's a major difference between venting and informative criticism - and mixing them can definitely reduce your efficiency in positively affecting others.