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Dressing down someone like that on a public mailing list is absolutely picking on them. It's not an argument, and is basically no different to the behaviour her
by anthonyb 14y ago
Dressing down someone like that on a public mailing list is absolutely picking on them. It's not an argument, and is basically no different to the behaviour here.
- akkartik 14y agoIt is basically worlds opposite to the behavior here. a. Linus uses swear words. Steve Klabnik used none. b. Linus provides substantive criticism. Even if you need flame-retardant underwear to hear it. c. Linus never ever ridicules outsiders. So what do the two have in common, again? I loved the mauro thread because you're seeing Linus talking to an insider of an influential project and tell him that the relative outsider with no status is right. By doing it publicly he reinforces the culture of the kernel: we don't break user code. We are a meritocracy, and if you're wrong I will not be shy about letting you know. He could do it with less profanity. But I heartily support his doing it so emphatically. Nobody else on lkml will brush something off as a userland bug for a year.
- anthonyb 14y agoRidicule is an extremely poor motivational tool, and when someone of Linus' standing does it, other people think that makes it somehow ok. There are many ways to reinforce meritocracy, or reinforce a culture without telling people to shut the fuck up in all caps.
- protomyth 14y ago"Linus never ever ridicules outsiders." That's actually not true. His "security monkey" references towards other projects being an example.
- simonh 14y agoIf someone brings up their child in a way I think is wrong I may disapprove, but it would be wrong of me to be abusive about it. If someone deliberately hurts my child and then makes excuses, I may very well end up serving 10 years to life for what I do to them.
- _Simon 14y agoDo you have this opinion when you are doing it?