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Corey Haines wrote a thoughtful apology here: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.htm

by sinak 14y ago

Corey Haines wrote a thoughtful apology here: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html Only one of the three to do so thus far.

MartinCron 14y ago
Classy. None of the "I am sorry if you were offended bullshit" just a sincere "I messed up". Take note, just about everyone else.
- keyboardP 14y ago
  I agree. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and that apology seems to be the best possible way to deal with it IMHO.
thetron 14y ago
Super relieved to see that - I was seriously disappointed to see Corey's name in amongst the mob. That's how an apology should be written.
keyboardP 14y ago
Steve Klabnik has now also posted an apology http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node
- Gigablah 14y ago
  And unfortunately it is exactly the "I am sorry if you were offended" type.
  - pbiggar 14y ago
    I don't think it is. I think its the 3rd kind: "I didnt say what I thought you said, but I can see how I hurt you and I'm sorry". Assuming that's true - which I think is a reasonable assumption based on how he teaches and his blog post from last year about being nice - it would seem wrong for him to post a full out apology.
    - bane 14y ago
      no it's definitely a "I'm sorry for offending you, but seriously fuck you for using node."
      - pbiggar 14y ago
        He definitely said that in the later tweets. Maybe you're right - its definitely less of an apology than his comments merited.
sinak 14y ago
David Cramer just doesn't get it: https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294307568019464192 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294307568019464192 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294306974248607745 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294306974248607745 All that despite confessing that he doesn't understand why the project was written: https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/293829856381255681 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/293829856381255681
- chris_wot 14y ago
  Clearly. He also wrote: "Are you mad that the Internet disagrees with you? Maybe get off the Internet?" https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294305445521268736 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294305445521268736 He's now gotten off the Internet because he's upset. Ironic.
  - zeeg 14y ago
    Nope, still here. I'm just not replying to you on Twitter because lol
    - chris_wot 14y ago
      Don't expect you to - you read it, good enough for me to know you did :-) Thanks for letting me know. Your entire blog post is a big "The Internet disagrees with me": http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet/ http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet... You said something in 140 characters that was snarky and mean, that's actually not easy to do to be honest. And then you got called on it, and now you are getting criticized. Not nice, huh?
      - chris_wot 14y ago
        Actually, you know something... I correct myself. It is easier than I realised. I'm not sure that would be a skill I'd be proud of...
      - papsosouid 14y ago
re_todd 14y ago
I just looked at his twitter feed, and he has a lot of "I made a mistake" posts. What he did was bad, but at least he is not trying to minimize it. And this thread getting to the top of Hacker News will probably teach him a lesson.

by sinak 14y ago

MartinCron 14y ago

Classy. None of the "I am sorry if you were offended bullshit" just a sincere "I messed up". Take note, just about everyone else.

keyboardP 14y ago
I agree. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and that apology seems to be the best possible way to deal with it IMHO.

thetron 14y ago

Super relieved to see that - I was seriously disappointed to see Corey's name in amongst the mob. That's how an apology should be written.

keyboardP 14y ago

Steve Klabnik has now also posted an apology http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node

Gigablah 14y ago
And unfortunately it is exactly the "I am sorry if you were offended" type.
- pbiggar 14y ago
  I don't think it is. I think its the 3rd kind: "I didnt say what I thought you said, but I can see how I hurt you and I'm sorry". Assuming that's true - which I think is a reasonable assumption based on how he teaches and his blog post from last year about being nice - it would seem wrong for him to post a full out apology.
  - bane 14y ago
    no it's definitely a "I'm sorry for offending you, but seriously fuck you for using node."
    - pbiggar 14y ago
      He definitely said that in the later tweets. Maybe you're right - its definitely less of an apology than his comments merited.

sinak 14y ago

David Cramer just doesn't get it: https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294307568019464192 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294307568019464192 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294306974248607745 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294306974248607745 All that despite confessing that he doesn't understand why the project was written: https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/293829856381255681 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/293829856381255681

chris_wot 14y ago
Clearly. He also wrote: "Are you mad that the Internet disagrees with you? Maybe get off the Internet?" https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294305445521268736 https://twitter.com/zeeg/status/294305445521268736 He's now gotten off the Internet because he's upset. Ironic.
- zeeg 14y ago
  Nope, still here. I'm just not replying to you on Twitter because lol
  - chris_wot 14y ago
    Don't expect you to - you read it, good enough for me to know you did :-) Thanks for letting me know. Your entire blog post is a big "The Internet disagrees with me": http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet/ http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet... You said something in 140 characters that was snarky and mean, that's actually not easy to do to be honest. And then you got called on it, and now you are getting criticized. Not nice, huh?
    - chris_wot 14y ago
      Actually, you know something... I correct myself. It is easier than I realised. I'm not sure that would be a skill I'd be proud of...
    - papsosouid 14y ago

re_todd 14y ago

I just looked at his twitter feed, and he has a lot of "I made a mistake" posts. What he did was bad, but at least he is not trying to minimize it. And this thread getting to the top of Hacker News will probably teach him a lesson.