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I've been following 2 of the 3 guys in that twitter conversation for several years. The first thing I can say is that they both are big parts of the ruby commu

by bstar77 14y ago

I've been following 2 of the 3 guys in that twitter conversation for several years. The first thing I can say is that they both are big parts of the ruby community and generally represent it well. With that said, this exchange really upsets me. I've noticed that there is definitely a sense of elitism among the guys that speak at many of the ruby conferences. I think a situation like this is simply a case of them forgetting that Twitter is public and that their personal message board isn't so personal after all. Guys, this is bullying and it's fucking pathetic. It's not the first time, but it needs to be the last. I've at least seen Cory talk and the guy is definitely one of the good guys, but this puts him in really bad light. How much more effort would it have been to post a defect to the github account and informing of the issues?

mbreese 14y ago
And when you say that they are part of the Ruby community, it's sad, but I said to myself - why doesn't that surprise me. It's said that the community behind a really useful language has that type of reputation. To tell you the truth, it's part of why I moved to python.
- stoprock 14y ago
  I take it you haven't seen @zeeg's tweets on the subject, then: https://twitter.com/zeeg https://twitter.com/zeeg Sorry to disillusion you about the Python community. Personally, part of the reason I stopped using Python heavily professionally in 2007 is because I was sick of hearing and reading Python web developers regularly disparage Ruby and the "Ruby community," a tradition carried on in comments like yours to this day.
  - zeeg 14y ago
    Are you suggesting I was talking bad about the Ruby community? I openly dislike Ruby (as a language), but I swear this project was written in Node, which I also dislike. Oh, and I could care less which language something is written in, my simple, trollish tweet, was only based on the usability aspect.
    - chris_wot 14y ago
      Yeah, about trollish tweets... you might offend someone.
- petercooper 14y ago
  It's sad that the community behind a really useful language has that type of reputation. Though not as sad as when intelligent people fall hook, line and sinker for unfair reputations formed and paraded by third parties displaying as much commonsense as those who used to stereotype others by race or gender in times past.

by bstar77 14y ago

mbreese 14y ago

And when you say that they are part of the Ruby community, it's sad, but I said to myself - why doesn't that surprise me. It's said that the community behind a really useful language has that type of reputation. To tell you the truth, it's part of why I moved to python.

stoprock 14y ago
I take it you haven't seen @zeeg's tweets on the subject, then: https://twitter.com/zeeg https://twitter.com/zeeg Sorry to disillusion you about the Python community. Personally, part of the reason I stopped using Python heavily professionally in 2007 is because I was sick of hearing and reading Python web developers regularly disparage Ruby and the "Ruby community," a tradition carried on in comments like yours to this day.
- zeeg 14y ago
  Are you suggesting I was talking bad about the Ruby community? I openly dislike Ruby (as a language), but I swear this project was written in Node, which I also dislike. Oh, and I could care less which language something is written in, my simple, trollish tweet, was only based on the usability aspect.
  - chris_wot 14y ago
    Yeah, about trollish tweets... you might offend someone.
petercooper 14y ago
It's sad that the community behind a really useful language has that type of reputation. Though not as sad as when intelligent people fall hook, line and sinker for unfair reputations formed and paraded by third parties displaying as much commonsense as those who used to stereotype others by race or gender in times past.