> It's a bit like saying terrorists "hate us for our freedom". Excellent example! My point is that that preposterous assumption is widely believed by people w

> It's a bit like saying terrorists "hate us for our freedom". Excellent example! My point is that that preposterous assumption is widely believed by people who vote and is therefore a large factor in foreign policy, even if those who are using it as a talking point have other motivations and don't actually believe it. Then there are also those that are in office and do believe this kind of stupidity, optimists generally feel these types of politicians "can't exist" because how would they get into office without being smarter than that. As I got older and actually met a decent number of politicians I realized they were normal people who can be just as stupid and confused as the public in general, especially when it's in their interests to believe these things.