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What is no-hire policy? Can someone explain it please?

by msoad 14y ago

lawnchair_larry 14y ago
It's a conspiracy to suppress the labor market. If you are an employee at a tech company and are being underpaid, you can't go to another employer for your market salary, because there is a secret agreement for them to ignore your job application. Even if you are not underpaid, but you simply want a change (maybe you always wanted to work at Google, and an opportunity arises) your resume gets black-holed because Apple "owns" you. The end result is your engineers have restricted mobility, and you don't have to pay them what they're worth. It's very similar to price fixing, but with humans and their ability to earn a living. Many tech companies were part of this conspiracy willingly, and Jobs threatened to sue the less willing companies using Apple's patent portfolio war-chest if they didn't agree to his demands. Edit: Let it be known that Ed Colligan is a class act. See his response to Jobs here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/121737673/Colligan-Affidavit http://www.scribd.com/doc/121737673/Colligan-Affidavit
- etherael 14y ago
  I can't believe he had the nerve to go on the record after being specifically told what he was planning was illegal once again on public record and then re-iterate his original threat. So not only the no hire thing, but basically extortion to get Palm to comply? Any last shred of respect I had for the guy just evaporated.
- leoc 14y ago
  Some of the agreements were more limited (and more sneaky) than that. For example (going by the evidence of the Adobe no-hire list) Adobe's no-hire agreement with Apple was "Do not pro-actively solicit candidates from Apple. However, if a candidate from this company applies to a position, you can pursue." and many of its other agreements were of that nature. It still sucks for you if you were (say) a SAP employee who could have had a better job at Adobe but weren't unhappy or ambitious (or suspicious) enough to be sending out your resume.
jzwinck 14y ago
The first paragraph mentions that it was to dissuade Palm from hiring employees from Apple. This is obviously a transaction against the interests of employees, yet outside their control and possibly even their view (you might get rejected for a job at Palm without ever knowing why).
swang 14y ago
Essentially both companies agree not to hire anyone from the other company. This is considered illegal in the States.

What is no-hire policy? Can someone explain it please?

by msoad 14y ago

What is no-hire policy? Can someone explain it please?

It's a conspiracy to suppress the labor market. If you are an employee at a tech company and are being underpaid, you can't go to another employer for your market salary, because there is a secret agreement for them to ignore your job application. Even if you are not underpaid, but you simply want a change (maybe you always wanted to work at Google, and an opportunity arises) your resume gets black-holed because Apple "owns" you. The end result is your engineers have restricted mobility, and you don't have to pay them what they're worth. It's very similar to price fixing, but with humans and their ability to earn a living. Many tech companies were part of this conspiracy willingly, and Jobs threatened to sue the less willing companies using Apple's patent portfolio war-chest if they didn't agree to his demands. Edit: Let it be known that Ed Colligan is a class act. See his response to Jobs here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/121737673/Colligan-Affidavit http://www.scribd.com/doc/121737673/Colligan-Affidavit

etherael 14y ago
I can't believe he had the nerve to go on the record after being specifically told what he was planning was illegal once again on public record and then re-iterate his original threat. So not only the no hire thing, but basically extortion to get Palm to comply? Any last shred of respect I had for the guy just evaporated.
leoc 14y ago
Some of the agreements were more limited (and more sneaky) than that. For example (going by the evidence of the Adobe no-hire list) Adobe's no-hire agreement with Apple was "Do not pro-actively solicit candidates from Apple. However, if a candidate from this company applies to a position, you can pursue." and many of its other agreements were of that nature. It still sucks for you if you were (say) a SAP employee who could have had a better job at Adobe but weren't unhappy or ambitious (or suspicious) enough to be sending out your resume.

jzwinck 14y ago

The first paragraph mentions that it was to dissuade Palm from hiring employees from Apple. This is obviously a transaction against the interests of employees, yet outside their control and possibly even their view (you might get rejected for a job at Palm without ever knowing why).

swang 14y ago

Essentially both companies agree not to hire anyone from the other company. This is considered illegal in the States.