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I'm not certain I understand what problems you are alluding to. Scholar has cases, and for you as an individual finding a case is largely trivial. If your inte
by igurari 14y ago
I'm not certain I understand what problems you are alluding to. Scholar has cases, and for you as an individual finding a case is largely trivial.
If your interest is in getting and providing bulk access to cases, then yes, you have obstacles. But that is only a problem for a select few individuals/companies who care about this as a business or hobby. The end users you may be trying to service by offering access to the cases can already get access to the cases from Google for free.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm not intending to downplay or diminish the efforts of you and others to open up access to those older cases. I think that is great. All I am saying is that for the vast majority of people, the vast majority of the time, there really isn't a problem in finding cases online.
- DannyBee 14y agoI'm saying scholar has a problem in actually getting the data to give it to you, and that is the problem trying to be solved by getting PACER to open up.
- igurari 14y agoAnd I'm saying that is not true. Scholar has nearly all of the cases anyone cares about - that's how they can index and serve them. (I say this as a former Google Scholar engineer.) If you are an individual, you can read the cases on Scholar. If you are a business and want to buy the cases in bulk - then you can find someone to sell them to you. Opening up PACER really doesn't help in practice because the data is ridiculously dirty - crappy scanned PDFs which people then pay to have triple keyed.
- DannyBee 14y agoEdit: Ugh. It's not worth having this argument in public. Let's just say I strenuously disagree, and I was just as much there as you were.
- igurari 14y agoEDIT: Regardless, this has been an interesting discussion and I'd enjoy taking it out of the context of HN if you are interested: itai |at| judicata |.com|