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This is really cool. FYI. Old photography exhibit going on now at Rayko. http://www.UpOut.com/sf/do/photography-exhibit-san-francisco-then-and-now http://www.Up

This is really cool. FYI. Old photography exhibit going on now at Rayko. http://www.UpOut.com/sf/do/photography-exhibit-san-francisco-then-and-now http://www.UpOut.com/sf/do/photography-exhibit-san-francisco... Full disclosure: I am a cofounder of UpOut

rhizome 14y ago
That page does not degrade. Visiting it with JS disabled displays a page with a modal popover that cannot be closed.
- hnriot 14y ago
  so? don't disable js if you want to use the www. It's not worth web developer's time catering to people like you. if I take out my car's engine it takes me forever to get anywhere, but is that Honda's problem?
  - freehunter 14y ago
    It's interesting on a forum of hackers who are busy creating the next biggest thing and pushing the web to its very limits with the latest technology, other people here spend their time complaining that when you take away these technologies and the scripts that enable them, the sites are no longer functional. When I uninstall Ruby from my server my apps stop working, but I understand that's a consequence of writing a website that relies on Ruby. Replicating JS functionality in HTML so it will degrade properly is a pointless exercise when literally every browser that any sane person would seriously be using comes with Javascript enabled. If a user wants to break a website, for themselves, go for it, but stop complaining to the developers because of a problem you caused for yourself.
  - rhizome 14y ago
    What a strange thing to say. Why do you think degradability is a concept?
    - EliRivers 14y ago
      Is this some technical meaning of "concept"? A thing is a concept if we can conceive it in our minds. I can think about the idea of degradability, so it's a concept.
      - rhizome 14y ago
        You know what I mean.
        EliRivers 14y ago
        I don't. Seriously. If I had to guess, I'd guess it was some new name for an old thing in whatever programming notation is hip with the kids now. Most things around here like this turn out to be new names for old things.
        rhizome 14y ago
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement
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rhizome 14y ago

That page does not degrade. Visiting it with JS disabled displays a page with a modal popover that cannot be closed.

hnriot 14y ago
so? don't disable js if you want to use the www. It's not worth web developer's time catering to people like you. if I take out my car's engine it takes me forever to get anywhere, but is that Honda's problem?
- freehunter 14y ago
  It's interesting on a forum of hackers who are busy creating the next biggest thing and pushing the web to its very limits with the latest technology, other people here spend their time complaining that when you take away these technologies and the scripts that enable them, the sites are no longer functional. When I uninstall Ruby from my server my apps stop working, but I understand that's a consequence of writing a website that relies on Ruby. Replicating JS functionality in HTML so it will degrade properly is a pointless exercise when literally every browser that any sane person would seriously be using comes with Javascript enabled. If a user wants to break a website, for themselves, go for it, but stop complaining to the developers because of a problem you caused for yourself.
- rhizome 14y ago
  What a strange thing to say. Why do you think degradability is a concept?
  - EliRivers 14y ago
    Is this some technical meaning of "concept"? A thing is a concept if we can conceive it in our minds. I can think about the idea of degradability, so it's a concept.
    - rhizome 14y ago
      You know what I mean.
      - EliRivers 14y ago
        I don't. Seriously. If I had to guess, I'd guess it was some new name for an old thing in whatever programming notation is hip with the kids now. Most things around here like this turn out to be new names for old things.
        rhizome 14y ago
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement
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