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It would be a shame to see people sink their money in this without realizing there are way better services out there for this type of thing. For example, Everno

It would be a shame to see people sink their money in this without realizing there are way better services out there for this type of thing. For example, Evernote Premium is just $5.00 per month or $45.00 per year and you get way better features, syncing across platforms, storage space, sharing, etc. That [Evernote example] costs less than 2 Basecamp Personal projects. I really think they should look into lowering the pricing to make this product more competitive. 37signals seems to be coming out with some crumby products lately. First Breeze, and now this. Sighhh.

talkingquickly 14y ago
I'm not sure if the two products are comparable though, I love Evernote for unstructured content but to me Basecamp has always been more structured. In particular for keep track of todo lists (along with audit trails of who's done what) and allowing email notification and response of discussions around todo's and documents. I know you can do some of this to an extent in Evernote (e.g. todo lists) but I'd be interested to hear more about how you use Evernote such that it can be a Basecamp replacement?
TylerE 14y ago
$25/forever is already lower than $5/month or $45/year
- technoslut 14y ago
  If a project lasts forever than paying or doing anything for that matter, even if it was free, is useless.
  - businessleads 14y ago
    Obviously you could change the name of your single, focused project - forever. But your point made me laugh. Twas a good one.
  - bjxrn 14y ago
    You forget "The joys of having a Forever Project"! Currently on the HN front page: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096009 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096009
  - TylerE 14y ago
    Sometimes the journey is more valuable than the destination.
- bluetidepro 14y ago
  Evernote has a free version also that has even more functionality than Basecamp Personal. I'm not saying Evernote is the perfect alternative, that was just an example of many. I guess I'm just getting to the point that there is lots of alternatives out there that give much more value for a better price. I feel like 37signals is trying to sell products just because of their name and are no longer put real value in their products. Or at least putting enough value in to justify the price tag associated with their newest products.
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technoslut 14y ago
I don't believe that 37 is attempting to go for the mass market. At least not yet. This is more for current Basecamp users that are used to an interface and quality they know and expect. I love Evernote but I don't use it for to-do's or projects. There are plenty of other alternatives that work well in sharing personal projects as well.
benatkin 14y ago
The one alternative you cite, Evernote, is something very different. Project information will mostly be unstructured. It will hold data but it won't send emails about TODOs with helpful subject lines. If better task tracking increases productivity, and it does IME, it will pay its $25 easily.
philip1209 14y ago
They used to have a free tier of the old basecamp - I'm fortunate to still have one

talkingquickly 14y ago

I'm not sure if the two products are comparable though, I love Evernote for unstructured content but to me Basecamp has always been more structured. In particular for keep track of todo lists (along with audit trails of who's done what) and allowing email notification and response of discussions around todo's and documents. I know you can do some of this to an extent in Evernote (e.g. todo lists) but I'd be interested to hear more about how you use Evernote such that it can be a Basecamp replacement?

TylerE 14y ago

$25/forever is already lower than $5/month or $45/year

technoslut 14y ago
If a project lasts forever than paying or doing anything for that matter, even if it was free, is useless.
- businessleads 14y ago
  Obviously you could change the name of your single, focused project - forever. But your point made me laugh. Twas a good one.
- bjxrn 14y ago
  You forget "The joys of having a Forever Project"! Currently on the HN front page: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096009 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096009
- TylerE 14y ago
  Sometimes the journey is more valuable than the destination.
bluetidepro 14y ago
Evernote has a free version also that has even more functionality than Basecamp Personal. I'm not saying Evernote is the perfect alternative, that was just an example of many. I guess I'm just getting to the point that there is lots of alternatives out there that give much more value for a better price. I feel like 37signals is trying to sell products just because of their name and are no longer put real value in their products. Or at least putting enough value in to justify the price tag associated with their newest products.
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technoslut 14y ago

I don't believe that 37 is attempting to go for the mass market. At least not yet. This is more for current Basecamp users that are used to an interface and quality they know and expect. I love Evernote but I don't use it for to-do's or projects. There are plenty of other alternatives that work well in sharing personal projects as well.

benatkin 14y ago

The one alternative you cite, Evernote, is something very different. Project information will mostly be unstructured. It will hold data but it won't send emails about TODOs with helpful subject lines. If better task tracking increases productivity, and it does IME, it will pay its $25 easily.

philip1209 14y ago

They used to have a free tier of the old basecamp - I'm fortunate to still have one