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Java could have been such a good thing, even in the browser (ok, as platform, ignoring the language's shortcomings, but still...). Whys did both Sun and Oracle
by nnq 14y ago
Java could have been such a good thing, even in the browser (ok, as platform, ignoring the language's shortcomings, but still...). Whys did both Sun and Oracle strive so hard to fuck it up? It's as if these guys have a "how to fuck things up for the end user" brainstorming meeting every week!
- brazzy 14y agoI think the last few years have shown conclusively that the it is not a good thing in the Browser because the sandbox security model is too complex to be implemented correctly.
- nnq 14y ago> the sandbox security model is too complex to be implemented correctly ...is there any other simpler security model than this? Java even seems a simpler and more "well behaved" language than JavaScript, and JVM bytecode is said to be even simpler (though I'm not an expert on this...), and browsers had they own share of Javascript related exploits but people rolled updates quickly, acted responsibly and didn't do anything particularly stupid (as opposed to the described crapware incident perpetuated by Oracle). EDIT+: one can buy browser exploits cheaper on "the x market" and they are more useful than JVM exploits so "security" is not Java's Achilles' heel, and it's Swiss cheese all the way down if you at most web-facing software unfortunately...