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Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go: I disagree. Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional A

by zyb09 14y ago

Ah my favorite topic, ok here we go: I disagree. Apple fans are the absolute worst. Not want to offend anyone here, but there's a certain type of delusional Apple fans, also known as members of the Apple Cult. The member strongly believes, that Apple products are perfect, flawless, and that every other competing product is inferior and can't comprehend why some people prefer other products. He/She will also always defend everything Apple does, spinning and twisting every news story to make Apple appear in a positive light and often directly contradict their previous stance, when Apple does something unexpected. These types also collect old Apple computers, like they're trophys, and pay for a cinema ticket to watch a Steve Jobs interview. They glorify Apples quarterly earning report and don't seem to notice that it's actually them paying a $500 profit margin on an iPhone - or maybe they're just happy to do so. I know, because I've met a few in real life, and the worst thing it's completely pointless to discuss anything related to Apples decisions with them - it's like talking against a wall. That's why they get called Sheeple, mindless worse ship of a corporation. Disclaimer: I don't hate Apple, I'm happy we have 2 ecosystems, strictly talking about the fans here.

sbuk 14y ago
Nah. Android fans are worse. Take a look at sites like The Verge, Gizmodo, Engadget and the Register. I see the behaviour that you describe from Google fans far more of late.
- sbuk 14y ago
  Nicely exhibited by the down vote. Stay classy HN.
  - anthonyb 14y ago
    Everything that you've posted in this thread has been either missing the point or obvious partisan shilling for Apple. I'm not surprised that you're getting downvoted.
    - sbuk 14y ago
      So I speak out against the herd, and in your words "shill" for Apple and my "punishment' is a downvote? This is what Arment is alluding too. The over entitled open-sourcer, who feels that they have a right to everything, so long as it is on their terms. You are hardly by-partisan yourself, everything that you post is either pro-Google or Anti-Apple. What is your point?
      - anthonyb 14y ago
        Perhaps this'll fall on deaf ears - we'll see. To date I've found that HN is one of the easier places to speak out against "the herd"... but your comment has to follow logically from the parent, and you have to back it up with some sort of evidence or reason for people to believe you. For example, your most recent comment, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096081 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096081. The parent comment talks about Raspberry Pi, and how hackable and open it is, and how the iPhone is the opposite of this, which is why it's unpopular with hacker types. Your response doesn't make sense for a number of reasons: a) What bubble? Nobody is talking about bubbles. And who's "we"? b) you said "Products like the iPhone are for consumers. That's everybody." Er, then who is Android for? There are lots of people who buy Android, and lots of them are consumers too. So this statement is obvious nonsense. c) here you're arguing against a straw man. The "hackers" aren't pissed because lots of people are using iPhones, they're pissed because Apple lock their phone down and then play games trying to lock in more market share, and squeeze out more revenue from their developers and users. It's wise to remember that there's a long history of companies locking people into platforms or applications and then screwing them. You're ignoring that part of the argument in favor of a different one, which is that some mythical "hackers" hate "normal" people (which is completely untrue - they just hate "stupid" people). d) "Using iPhones" is not anywhere near "computing". Not even on the same continent, much less ballpark. So - what would I have done differently in your position? Well, the obvious one is just to gracefully concede the point - the iPhone is a lot more locked down than a Raspberry Pi. Assuming that you want to defend the iPhone on that front, you need to find ways in which the iPhone is also open. Hell, most people would settle for "ways in which the iPhone is more open than you thought". If you can find links to some of those, I'll upvote you :)
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jvzr 14y ago
Whoa, prejudice much? I'm an Apple fan and I don't restlessly bash others about their phones. If anything, there is as much fanboyism going on on the other side, and probably more given the user base.

by zyb09 14y ago

sbuk 14y ago

Nah. Android fans are worse. Take a look at sites like The Verge, Gizmodo, Engadget and the Register. I see the behaviour that you describe from Google fans far more of late.

sbuk 14y ago
Nicely exhibited by the down vote. Stay classy HN.
- anthonyb 14y ago
  Everything that you've posted in this thread has been either missing the point or obvious partisan shilling for Apple. I'm not surprised that you're getting downvoted.
  - sbuk 14y ago
    So I speak out against the herd, and in your words "shill" for Apple and my "punishment' is a downvote? This is what Arment is alluding too. The over entitled open-sourcer, who feels that they have a right to everything, so long as it is on their terms. You are hardly by-partisan yourself, everything that you post is either pro-Google or Anti-Apple. What is your point?
    - anthonyb 14y ago
      Perhaps this'll fall on deaf ears - we'll see. To date I've found that HN is one of the easier places to speak out against "the herd"... but your comment has to follow logically from the parent, and you have to back it up with some sort of evidence or reason for people to believe you. For example, your most recent comment, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096081 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5096081. The parent comment talks about Raspberry Pi, and how hackable and open it is, and how the iPhone is the opposite of this, which is why it's unpopular with hacker types. Your response doesn't make sense for a number of reasons: a) What bubble? Nobody is talking about bubbles. And who's "we"? b) you said "Products like the iPhone are for consumers. That's everybody." Er, then who is Android for? There are lots of people who buy Android, and lots of them are consumers too. So this statement is obvious nonsense. c) here you're arguing against a straw man. The "hackers" aren't pissed because lots of people are using iPhones, they're pissed because Apple lock their phone down and then play games trying to lock in more market share, and squeeze out more revenue from their developers and users. It's wise to remember that there's a long history of companies locking people into platforms or applications and then screwing them. You're ignoring that part of the argument in favor of a different one, which is that some mythical "hackers" hate "normal" people (which is completely untrue - they just hate "stupid" people). d) "Using iPhones" is not anywhere near "computing". Not even on the same continent, much less ballpark. So - what would I have done differently in your position? Well, the obvious one is just to gracefully concede the point - the iPhone is a lot more locked down than a Raspberry Pi. Assuming that you want to defend the iPhone on that front, you need to find ways in which the iPhone is also open. Hell, most people would settle for "ways in which the iPhone is more open than you thought". If you can find links to some of those, I'll upvote you :)
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jvzr 14y ago

Whoa, prejudice much? I'm an Apple fan and I don't restlessly bash others about their phones. If anything, there is as much fanboyism going on on the other side, and probably more given the user base.