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Would you post the link here? I would be interesting in reading your specific arguments. The only issue I really take with the "I'm 14 and check out my first [

Would you post the link here? I would be interesting in reading your specific arguments. The only issue I really take with the "I'm 14 and check out my first [x]," is that some of them feel a little suspect. Hell, I stumbled upon one of the "I'm 15 and.." guys astroturfing his thread. He neglected to change accounts, and so he gave a glowing review about how great the game was, and how awesome the it is that he's doing this at his age... all from the same account he used to post the link. When I pointed this out to him, everything was quickly deleted. Maybe I'm letting one bad apple spoil everything, but I feel that some percentage of the "I'm young, check out this really mediocre, yet ad supported thing I made" are in fact, just some older guy's weekend passive income experiment.

dfabulich 14y ago
It's http://vishnumenon.com/2013/01/21/im-35-months-old-and-i-made-this-cool-app/ http://vishnumenon.com/2013/01/21/im-35-months-old-and-i-mad...
- goostavos 14y ago
  Thanks for the link! After reading through it, I don't feel there was anything "ugly and short-sighted" about it. OP was being way over dramatic. On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to rely on an emotional manipulation to get page views.
  - danilocampos 14y ago
    You need to have a pathological lack of empathy to view these matters as "emotional manipulation."
    - goostavos 14y ago
      Ah, thank you for your internet diagnosis. I suppose it is possible that I suffer from a "pathological lack of empathy," or, you may just be over reacting to the word "manipulate." So, let's sub in a different phrasing so you don't take it so harshly. "On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to appeal to emotion in an attempt to garner page views and/or karma"
      - danilocampos 14y ago
        > "On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to appeal to emotion in an attempt to garner page views and/or karma" This is bordering on deliberate obtuseness. This is not a matter of appealing to emotion. This appealing to experience and asking for guidance during a fragile period of development. In a "tech-centered" community, we should do our best to nurture young people who want to follow in our footsteps. I simply have no respect for anyone who can't see the value in that. It's the worst kind of childish, self-centered worldview.
        goostavos 14y ago
        Oh, I just realized that your OP.. That makes a little more sense... >I simply have no respect for anyone who can't see the value in that. It's the worst kind of childish, self-centered worldview. I stand by my original statement of your tendency toward hyperbole. It's fine that you feel the need to be all high and mighty about this, and tout on about your various respect hierarchies and where others fall into them, but at the end of the day, you're really wetting your pants over nothing. Honestly, I think you just lack reading comprehension, or maybe you just want attention yourself? However, I will refrain from internet diagnosing you. You know what the other guy's post said? You should really re-read it. It said they should come as equals and be judged accordingly. There you go; That's pretty much the summary. Whether or not you agree with it, is that position really as ugly as you make it, or are you simply overreacting? Did it really warrant calling him out in a public forum? I understand white-knighting, and "Won't someone think of the frail, helpless children!" mentality, but Jesus, man.. One guy says, "Don't coddle them." You say, "That guy is childish and selfish! Coddle them" There's the summary of this thread. Calm down, my man. Difference of opinion does not an asshole make.
        danilocampos 14y ago
        > Difference of opinion does not an asshole make. On this we agree. That's not what makes the asshole. > I think you just lack reading comprehension > coddle them If you think advocating mentorship over hostility is me wanting to "coddle" people, you've got a lot of nerve throwing around phrases like "reading comprehension."

dfabulich 14y ago

It's http://vishnumenon.com/2013/01/21/im-35-months-old-and-i-made-this-cool-app/ http://vishnumenon.com/2013/01/21/im-35-months-old-and-i-mad...

goostavos 14y ago
Thanks for the link! After reading through it, I don't feel there was anything "ugly and short-sighted" about it. OP was being way over dramatic. On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to rely on an emotional manipulation to get page views.
- danilocampos 14y ago
  You need to have a pathological lack of empathy to view these matters as "emotional manipulation."
  - goostavos 14y ago
    Ah, thank you for your internet diagnosis. I suppose it is possible that I suffer from a "pathological lack of empathy," or, you may just be over reacting to the word "manipulate." So, let's sub in a different phrasing so you don't take it so harshly. "On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to appeal to emotion in an attempt to garner page views and/or karma"
    - danilocampos 14y ago
      > "On a tech centered website such as Hacker News, it seems a perfectly reasonable position to ask someone not to appeal to emotion in an attempt to garner page views and/or karma" This is bordering on deliberate obtuseness. This is not a matter of appealing to emotion. This appealing to experience and asking for guidance during a fragile period of development. In a "tech-centered" community, we should do our best to nurture young people who want to follow in our footsteps. I simply have no respect for anyone who can't see the value in that. It's the worst kind of childish, self-centered worldview.
      - goostavos 14y ago
        Oh, I just realized that your OP.. That makes a little more sense... >I simply have no respect for anyone who can't see the value in that. It's the worst kind of childish, self-centered worldview. I stand by my original statement of your tendency toward hyperbole. It's fine that you feel the need to be all high and mighty about this, and tout on about your various respect hierarchies and where others fall into them, but at the end of the day, you're really wetting your pants over nothing. Honestly, I think you just lack reading comprehension, or maybe you just want attention yourself? However, I will refrain from internet diagnosing you. You know what the other guy's post said? You should really re-read it. It said they should come as equals and be judged accordingly. There you go; That's pretty much the summary. Whether or not you agree with it, is that position really as ugly as you make it, or are you simply overreacting? Did it really warrant calling him out in a public forum? I understand white-knighting, and "Won't someone think of the frail, helpless children!" mentality, but Jesus, man.. One guy says, "Don't coddle them." You say, "That guy is childish and selfish! Coddle them" There's the summary of this thread. Calm down, my man. Difference of opinion does not an asshole make.
        danilocampos 14y ago
        > Difference of opinion does not an asshole make. On this we agree. That's not what makes the asshole. > I think you just lack reading comprehension > coddle them If you think advocating mentorship over hostility is me wanting to "coddle" people, you've got a lot of nerve throwing around phrases like "reading comprehension."