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Did a horse with blinkers write the article? > "I’ve noticed a very clear trend among tech sites I read: Android fans are unusually quick to fill the comment b

Did a horse with blinkers write the article? > "I’ve noticed a very clear trend among tech sites I read: Android fans are unusually quick to fill the comment box with rage on articles that mention anything positive about Apple or its products. The reverse — Apple fans leaving angry comments on pro-Android articles — is almost completely absent from the sites I’ve seen"

Pr0 14y ago
Seriously.
doe88 14y ago
I've observed (non scientifically I concede) the same thing than Marco. Also another thing he wrote I find particularly true is the need for Android users to try to convince others people to switch to Android as if there was no good reason to own an iPhone. That's strange.
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- mitchty 14y ago
  Totally agree, I personally don't go into Android posts with the intent to convert people over to my "team". I might post a comment relating to my experiences when they run contrary to what is being posted, but by and large I don't want to act pompous about the platform I use being the "one true platform". I do notice a large amount of android users seem to love apple stories and to immediately launch into diatribe mode. Which just makes me not want to bother reading android or apple articles entirely. Both sides need to chill out and realize we don't need another Ford versus Chevy debate with Android/Apple. They get tiring and aren't very productive.
  - yareally 14y ago
    Totally agree. One should like technology for the sake of what it is and what it does for us. The approach guys like Woz take to various devices regardless of brand is one that everyone should try to emulate.
- SCdF 14y ago
  I've observed (not scientifically as you say) the opposite. In fact, just yesterday there was some 'Android sucks Apple's great' stuff going on in the comments on an article on The Verge, which is actually one of the sites he directly says he visits. It's hard to take Marco et al seriously anymore.
  - gutnor 14y ago
    I think the article is trying too hard to justify Apple-hate to some sort of intellectual reasoning. Really, people are all upset mostly because of the low barrier of entry to have an opinion on the subject. That is just open to any kid over 12. It is just like discussing politic at the pub after the second round: people are angry at Apple like they are angry at Fox News, or the Republican, or whatever - because it is mainstream right now and there are plenty of easy, pre-made one line argument you can parrot. The result is that it is almost impossible to find actual interesting/constructive comment in any discussion related to Apple. disclaimer: YMMV, my fav newsites seems completely devoid of Apple fanboys (i.e. no bashing on Android news, and very little fan comment on Apple news - except in reaction to Apple bashing, generally offtopic anyway so useless)
- snogglethorpe 14y ago
  I expect it has a lot to do with which blogs/forums you're reading. In my experience, the number of Apple fanboi comments vastly exceeds the number of Android fanboi comments, pretty much everywhere I've noticed. Given that the iphone is very, very, popular, especially in English-speaking countries (and I mostly read blogs in English), this isn't entirely surprising: popularity, especially mass-market popularity, almost always comes with an associated fanboi/mouth-breather contingent... [Actually, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a real Android fanboi; most comments I see criticizing Apple seem to be pretty purely anti-Apple, not pro-Android per-se. AFAICT, Android is thought of as "the practical alternative," and doesn't tend to engender passion (including the sort of degenerate passion fanbois represent) the way Apple does...]
  - yareally 14y ago
    Spend some time on XDA, Rootzwiki or any of the other larger Android forums and you'll find them :). I see them quite often when I read either one and I'm an avid Android user. Most just don't show their colors until there is a new Apple Product out to rant about. Otherwise, they're quite tame generally and reserved in their behavior. However, talk about Apple and things change pretty quick. Most aren't silly enough to argue the obvious things that Apple has up on Android (battery life in terms of battery capacity and overall system performance/responsiveness). However, there's always a few crazy fanboys that will still fight those things.
  - sbuk 14y ago
    That's not even true here I'm afraid...
    - snogglethorpe 14y ago
      What's not even true here?
Osmium 14y ago
A comment is in the eye of the beholder. No doubt, to an Apple fan, a pro-Apple comment on an Android thread can seem reasonable and unbiased, whilst the same comment would seem trollish to an Android fan. When it comes down to it, most of us, regardless of the platform we individually use, can appreciate the relative pros and cons of each platform. It's just that we're not the ones commenting on articles like that, and so the dialogue gets driven by "fanboys." That ultimately results in articles like this, which is responding to the voices of a few while the silent majority of the sensible is under-represented.
seiji 14y ago
One example of many: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2013/01/sport_app.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2013/01/sport_app.htm...
- anthonyb 14y ago
  That doesn't seem to be 'rage' to me: Good to hear that an Android version is on the way but why have iOS devices been prioritised yet again by the BBC in the release of an app? I'm getting really annoyed about the BBC's obsession with Apple products that only account for around 20% of the UK market. Poor show BBC. For an organisation who are supposed to be platform neutral ..., there seems to be a steady and consistent bias shown towards Apple at the expense of the other platforms. or perhaps "really annoyed" is what passes for rage in the UK? ;)
  - rcgs 14y ago
    To be honest, it comes of as a bit miffed.
  - sbuk 14y ago
    Actually read it. The guy is whining because they released iOS apps first, which is hardly surprising since there is essentially only two platforms to get right. It's very passive-aggressive, which is true of most posts like this.
    - anthonyb 14y ago
      > Actually read it. I am capable of reading, and have been for quite some time, thankyouverymuch. And it's still not rage, is it?
      - sbuk 14y ago
        It passive-aggressive nerd rage and it typifies the the gross sense of entitlement many android devotees online.
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yareally 14y ago
I'm an admin on a larger Android forum and I'm generally one of the first to refute anything untrue that Apple haters will ignorantly spout. I can't stand when either side will parrot statements they hear from like-minded sites without ever being objective and seeking out the truth while putting aside personal bias. Like someone else mentioned here about some iphone users being quick to take cheap shots at an ecosystem/platform that does not coincide with their own personal interests or usage, some Android users ironically do the same. Frankly, I think it's all a little silly to get so worked up over a portable pc that also makes phone calls. Example of such silly threads on an Android forum (and this is one of the more mild ones, since I was moderating some of the worse parts): http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33928-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-5/ http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33928-what-do-you-think-of-the-ip.... This was actually like 10-15 separate threads since everyone thought they needed their own personal one in their own device subforum. We ended up merging them all together as they happened and stuck them in the off-topic forum to help detour the nonsense somewhat.
- CR45H 14y ago
  Thanks for your hard work. This is indeed a problem in every corner of the internet (Android forums included).
  - yareally 14y ago
    Thankfully, I don't see it too often except around release dates and the month or so after. It sort of erupts around then and settles afterwards. I try to avoid most places online that get into such disputes, but I would assume it's generally the same elsewhere?

Pr0 14y ago

Seriously.

doe88 14y ago

I've observed (non scientifically I concede) the same thing than Marco. Also another thing he wrote I find particularly true is the need for Android users to try to convince others people to switch to Android as if there was no good reason to own an iPhone. That's strange.

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mitchty 14y ago
Totally agree, I personally don't go into Android posts with the intent to convert people over to my "team". I might post a comment relating to my experiences when they run contrary to what is being posted, but by and large I don't want to act pompous about the platform I use being the "one true platform". I do notice a large amount of android users seem to love apple stories and to immediately launch into diatribe mode. Which just makes me not want to bother reading android or apple articles entirely. Both sides need to chill out and realize we don't need another Ford versus Chevy debate with Android/Apple. They get tiring and aren't very productive.
- yareally 14y ago
  Totally agree. One should like technology for the sake of what it is and what it does for us. The approach guys like Woz take to various devices regardless of brand is one that everyone should try to emulate.
SCdF 14y ago
I've observed (not scientifically as you say) the opposite. In fact, just yesterday there was some 'Android sucks Apple's great' stuff going on in the comments on an article on The Verge, which is actually one of the sites he directly says he visits. It's hard to take Marco et al seriously anymore.
- gutnor 14y ago
  I think the article is trying too hard to justify Apple-hate to some sort of intellectual reasoning. Really, people are all upset mostly because of the low barrier of entry to have an opinion on the subject. That is just open to any kid over 12. It is just like discussing politic at the pub after the second round: people are angry at Apple like they are angry at Fox News, or the Republican, or whatever - because it is mainstream right now and there are plenty of easy, pre-made one line argument you can parrot. The result is that it is almost impossible to find actual interesting/constructive comment in any discussion related to Apple. disclaimer: YMMV, my fav newsites seems completely devoid of Apple fanboys (i.e. no bashing on Android news, and very little fan comment on Apple news - except in reaction to Apple bashing, generally offtopic anyway so useless)
snogglethorpe 14y ago
I expect it has a lot to do with which blogs/forums you're reading. In my experience, the number of Apple fanboi comments vastly exceeds the number of Android fanboi comments, pretty much everywhere I've noticed. Given that the iphone is very, very, popular, especially in English-speaking countries (and I mostly read blogs in English), this isn't entirely surprising: popularity, especially mass-market popularity, almost always comes with an associated fanboi/mouth-breather contingent... [Actually, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a real Android fanboi; most comments I see criticizing Apple seem to be pretty purely anti-Apple, not pro-Android per-se. AFAICT, Android is thought of as "the practical alternative," and doesn't tend to engender passion (including the sort of degenerate passion fanbois represent) the way Apple does...]
- yareally 14y ago
  Spend some time on XDA, Rootzwiki or any of the other larger Android forums and you'll find them :). I see them quite often when I read either one and I'm an avid Android user. Most just don't show their colors until there is a new Apple Product out to rant about. Otherwise, they're quite tame generally and reserved in their behavior. However, talk about Apple and things change pretty quick. Most aren't silly enough to argue the obvious things that Apple has up on Android (battery life in terms of battery capacity and overall system performance/responsiveness). However, there's always a few crazy fanboys that will still fight those things.
- sbuk 14y ago
  That's not even true here I'm afraid...
  - snogglethorpe 14y ago
    What's not even true here?

Osmium 14y ago

A comment is in the eye of the beholder. No doubt, to an Apple fan, a pro-Apple comment on an Android thread can seem reasonable and unbiased, whilst the same comment would seem trollish to an Android fan. When it comes down to it, most of us, regardless of the platform we individually use, can appreciate the relative pros and cons of each platform. It's just that we're not the ones commenting on articles like that, and so the dialogue gets driven by "fanboys." That ultimately results in articles like this, which is responding to the voices of a few while the silent majority of the sensible is under-represented.

seiji 14y ago

One example of many: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2013/01/sport_app.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2013/01/sport_app.htm...

anthonyb 14y ago
That doesn't seem to be 'rage' to me: Good to hear that an Android version is on the way but why have iOS devices been prioritised yet again by the BBC in the release of an app? I'm getting really annoyed about the BBC's obsession with Apple products that only account for around 20% of the UK market. Poor show BBC. For an organisation who are supposed to be platform neutral ..., there seems to be a steady and consistent bias shown towards Apple at the expense of the other platforms. or perhaps "really annoyed" is what passes for rage in the UK? ;)
- rcgs 14y ago
  To be honest, it comes of as a bit miffed.
- sbuk 14y ago
  Actually read it. The guy is whining because they released iOS apps first, which is hardly surprising since there is essentially only two platforms to get right. It's very passive-aggressive, which is true of most posts like this.
  - anthonyb 14y ago
    > Actually read it. I am capable of reading, and have been for quite some time, thankyouverymuch. And it's still not rage, is it?
    - sbuk 14y ago
      It passive-aggressive nerd rage and it typifies the the gross sense of entitlement many android devotees online.
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yareally 14y ago

I'm an admin on a larger Android forum and I'm generally one of the first to refute anything untrue that Apple haters will ignorantly spout. I can't stand when either side will parrot statements they hear from like-minded sites without ever being objective and seeking out the truth while putting aside personal bias. Like someone else mentioned here about some iphone users being quick to take cheap shots at an ecosystem/platform that does not coincide with their own personal interests or usage, some Android users ironically do the same. Frankly, I think it's all a little silly to get so worked up over a portable pc that also makes phone calls. Example of such silly threads on an Android forum (and this is one of the more mild ones, since I was moderating some of the worse parts): http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33928-what-do-you-think-of-the-iphone-5/ http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33928-what-do-you-think-of-the-ip.... This was actually like 10-15 separate threads since everyone thought they needed their own personal one in their own device subforum. We ended up merging them all together as they happened and stuck them in the off-topic forum to help detour the nonsense somewhat.

CR45H 14y ago
Thanks for your hard work. This is indeed a problem in every corner of the internet (Android forums included).
- yareally 14y ago
  Thankfully, I don't see it too often except around release dates and the month or so after. It sort of erupts around then and settles afterwards. I try to avoid most places online that get into such disputes, but I would assume it's generally the same elsewhere?