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(2010) See also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5088722 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5088722 3 comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24049

(2010) See also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5088722 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5088722 3 comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2404976 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2404976 80 comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3212825 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3212825 0 comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3107258 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3107258 0 comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3598197 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3598197 0 comments

rsingla 14y ago
Well that's embarrassing. Looks like I need to revamp my searching skills. I did do a search before posting, but evidently it was a poor one. My bad!
- ramayac 14y ago
  Don't worry, I'm not reading HN articles from 2010, so it's a rediscovery for me when this events occur.
  - duck 14y ago
    If you do want to read classics from HN checkout my http://waybackletter.com http://waybackletter.com project. :-)
- DigitalSea 14y ago
  If it makes you feel any better, this is the first time I've ever seen this before, so reposting isn't always a bad thing. Was an interesting read, love the effects in Tron and it's good to see some insight into it (especially those not on HN in 2010).
  - rhizome 14y ago
    Of course if you really cared you might do a search. https://www.google.com/search?q=emacs+tron https://www.google.com/search?q=emacs+tron
    - cheapsteak 14y ago
      Can't search for unknown unknowns
      - nthj 14y ago
        "You don't know what you don't know" — my mentor
        apl 14y ago
        Got mentored by a fortune cookie? Empty platitudes are detrimental to clear thinking; yours is a prime example.
        kbutler 14y ago
        If you cannot see depth where others do, where is the depth lacking?
        drhouse_md 14y ago
        (playing devil's advocate) The emperor's new clothes.
        nthj 14y ago
        > yours is a prime example. Glad I could help. tips hat
    - DigitalSea 14y ago
      Why on Earth would I ever think of searching for that? I didn't even know the terminal screen was an Emacs terminal because guess what, I don't use Emacs. No need to be an asshole buddy.
      - rhizome 14y ago
        Sure, the post was useful as passive entertainment. I get it.
- thechut 14y ago
  I really enjoyed reading this an hadn't seen it before. I think that posting the date, like you did, should remove anybody's expectation that this was fresh content anyway. Regardless of previous posts on HN.
  - rsingla 14y ago
    Actually, this title was edited from my original. Thanks to whoever did that!
- laureny 14y ago
  > Well that's embarrassing. Looks like I need to revamp my searching skills. Shouldn't be your job, the web site should take care of it. Then again, Hacker News' code base looks like it hasn't been touched in six years.
  - digitalengineer 14y ago
    So does the interface. And how about a "notify" if someone responds to a message? What's up with the use of tables? How about Mobile?
    - jgeralnik 14y ago
      You can use http://hnnotify.com/ http://hnnotify.com/ to get a notification.
      - digitalengineer 14y ago
        Thanks! Didn't know about that.
- vertis 14y ago
  It's still awesome even if it is a couple of years old.
- ed209 14y ago
  I use Hacker News'd which is a pretty cool Chrome extension that tells you (and links to) HN submissions for any URL https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-newsd/njdndkhkelkeepcnmookckfhleebcokl https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-newsd/njdnd...
- 89a 14y ago
  Don't feel bad, I think I've read this article a good few times of my own accord anyway. Interesting workflow and great looking work.
- pessimizer 14y ago
  Just remove all of the weird cruft from the end of the query string, check to see if the link still works, and submit. HN will tell you if you've duplicated an old url. Submitting "jtnimoy.net/?q=178" would have sent you to the original submission.
shawndumas 14y ago
posting the ones with comments is helpful; posting the others is not.
- Xyzodiac 14y ago
  I think it helps with the point, there's been a large influx of reposts lately.
  - agracey 14y ago
    I wonder if that has come with an influx of new users also?
  - jasonlotito 14y ago
    Lately? Like a good book, movie, or music, repeat enjoyment isn't necessarily bad. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment of HN, especially when you actually through the links from previous submissions. It's been reposted a number of times for obvious reasons. Regardless, if the point of the comment is to note the number of reposts, then it's purpose harms HN more than simply using existing means to resolve reposts. Again, within the context of trying to make a point, it is worthless. If the intent was to post additional commentary found elsewhere, then it's valuable. Yes, their is a distinction between the two.
  - ChuckMcM 14y ago
    It would be an interesting hack to do something like the dup filter for age and indicate when something is a repost and automatically include the previous versions as the first comment in the thread. I agree that sometimes bringing something back for another round is worthwhile, of course some times not.
    - ColinWright 14y ago
      My DupDetector bot could do that. I got some very nasty emails and decided to retire it.
      - 14y ago
kitsune_ 14y ago
I tried to pick up SideFX Houdini after this article was published the first time on here. After a month I admitted total and utter failure. Whoever came up with that program is a mad genius. It's absolutely mind blowing what you can achieve with procedural operators and networks. It's somewhat similar in spirit to Cycling 74's MAX and other visual programming environments.
- agumonkey 14y ago
  I wish this paradigm(*) was more mainstream, it open your minds and flip your view of computers. The CmiVFX tutorials about building towns, nature.. anything procedurally were a long and dense brain rewiring. It's almost not about using Houdini, it's about solving a problem with generic functions. Houdini earns a paradigm name as many things in Houdini are built in Houdini, which is .. well math with interfaces. At least back in 2005, the skeletal animation system component was a encapsulation of geometry primitives bound by some arithmetics, you could open and edit it as any other surface or object. Turtles all the way down. Beautiful. Reminds me of Emacs/Lisp actually, once inside, you won't leave.
  - kitsune_ 14y ago
    I've watched those tutorial videos as well. They blew my mind. Just speaking about Houdini makes me want to pick it up again. I found that the complexity lied in knowing all the different nodes, the jargon, and of course when to use what (which comes with experience). After a month or so I bailed out because of time constraints, my daily job, and other side projects.
    - agumonkey 14y ago
      May I asked what is your job ? If you're a programmer does it affect the way you think about things ? I was highly infected by such programs (Maya hypergraph, SekD Samplitude non destructive virtual tracks; all share this lazy composition of generic nodes) before entering a computer cursus and it shapes everything I do ever since. And since few people experienced that level of generative-ness, I often look like a fool.

rsingla 14y ago

Well that's embarrassing. Looks like I need to revamp my searching skills. I did do a search before posting, but evidently it was a poor one. My bad!

ramayac 14y ago
Don't worry, I'm not reading HN articles from 2010, so it's a rediscovery for me when this events occur.
- duck 14y ago
  If you do want to read classics from HN checkout my http://waybackletter.com http://waybackletter.com project. :-)
DigitalSea 14y ago
If it makes you feel any better, this is the first time I've ever seen this before, so reposting isn't always a bad thing. Was an interesting read, love the effects in Tron and it's good to see some insight into it (especially those not on HN in 2010).
- rhizome 14y ago
  Of course if you really cared you might do a search. https://www.google.com/search?q=emacs+tron https://www.google.com/search?q=emacs+tron
  - cheapsteak 14y ago
    Can't search for unknown unknowns
    - nthj 14y ago
      "You don't know what you don't know" — my mentor
      - apl 14y ago
        Got mentored by a fortune cookie? Empty platitudes are detrimental to clear thinking; yours is a prime example.
        kbutler 14y ago
        If you cannot see depth where others do, where is the depth lacking?
        drhouse_md 14y ago
        (playing devil's advocate) The emperor's new clothes.
        nthj 14y ago
        > yours is a prime example. Glad I could help. tips hat
  - DigitalSea 14y ago
    Why on Earth would I ever think of searching for that? I didn't even know the terminal screen was an Emacs terminal because guess what, I don't use Emacs. No need to be an asshole buddy.
    - rhizome 14y ago
      Sure, the post was useful as passive entertainment. I get it.
thechut 14y ago
I really enjoyed reading this an hadn't seen it before. I think that posting the date, like you did, should remove anybody's expectation that this was fresh content anyway. Regardless of previous posts on HN.
- rsingla 14y ago
  Actually, this title was edited from my original. Thanks to whoever did that!
laureny 14y ago
> Well that's embarrassing. Looks like I need to revamp my searching skills. Shouldn't be your job, the web site should take care of it. Then again, Hacker News' code base looks like it hasn't been touched in six years.
- digitalengineer 14y ago
  So does the interface. And how about a "notify" if someone responds to a message? What's up with the use of tables? How about Mobile?
  - jgeralnik 14y ago
    You can use http://hnnotify.com/ http://hnnotify.com/ to get a notification.
    - digitalengineer 14y ago
      Thanks! Didn't know about that.
vertis 14y ago
It's still awesome even if it is a couple of years old.
ed209 14y ago
I use Hacker News'd which is a pretty cool Chrome extension that tells you (and links to) HN submissions for any URL https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-newsd/njdndkhkelkeepcnmookckfhleebcokl https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-newsd/njdnd...
89a 14y ago
Don't feel bad, I think I've read this article a good few times of my own accord anyway. Interesting workflow and great looking work.
pessimizer 14y ago
Just remove all of the weird cruft from the end of the query string, check to see if the link still works, and submit. HN will tell you if you've duplicated an old url. Submitting "jtnimoy.net/?q=178" would have sent you to the original submission.

shawndumas 14y ago

posting the ones with comments is helpful; posting the others is not.

Xyzodiac 14y ago
I think it helps with the point, there's been a large influx of reposts lately.
- agracey 14y ago
  I wonder if that has come with an influx of new users also?
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  Lately? Like a good book, movie, or music, repeat enjoyment isn't necessarily bad. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment of HN, especially when you actually through the links from previous submissions. It's been reposted a number of times for obvious reasons. Regardless, if the point of the comment is to note the number of reposts, then it's purpose harms HN more than simply using existing means to resolve reposts. Again, within the context of trying to make a point, it is worthless. If the intent was to post additional commentary found elsewhere, then it's valuable. Yes, their is a distinction between the two.
- ChuckMcM 14y ago
  It would be an interesting hack to do something like the dup filter for age and indicate when something is a repost and automatically include the previous versions as the first comment in the thread. I agree that sometimes bringing something back for another round is worthwhile, of course some times not.
  - ColinWright 14y ago
    My DupDetector bot could do that. I got some very nasty emails and decided to retire it.
    - 14y ago

kitsune_ 14y ago

I tried to pick up SideFX Houdini after this article was published the first time on here. After a month I admitted total and utter failure. Whoever came up with that program is a mad genius. It's absolutely mind blowing what you can achieve with procedural operators and networks. It's somewhat similar in spirit to Cycling 74's MAX and other visual programming environments.

agumonkey 14y ago
I wish this paradigm(*) was more mainstream, it open your minds and flip your view of computers. The CmiVFX tutorials about building towns, nature.. anything procedurally were a long and dense brain rewiring. It's almost not about using Houdini, it's about solving a problem with generic functions. Houdini earns a paradigm name as many things in Houdini are built in Houdini, which is .. well math with interfaces. At least back in 2005, the skeletal animation system component was a encapsulation of geometry primitives bound by some arithmetics, you could open and edit it as any other surface or object. Turtles all the way down. Beautiful. Reminds me of Emacs/Lisp actually, once inside, you won't leave.
- kitsune_ 14y ago
  I've watched those tutorial videos as well. They blew my mind. Just speaking about Houdini makes me want to pick it up again. I found that the complexity lied in knowing all the different nodes, the jargon, and of course when to use what (which comes with experience). After a month or so I bailed out because of time constraints, my daily job, and other side projects.
  - agumonkey 14y ago
    May I asked what is your job ? If you're a programmer does it affect the way you think about things ? I was highly infected by such programs (Maya hypergraph, SekD Samplitude non destructive virtual tracks; all share this lazy composition of generic nodes) before entering a computer cursus and it shapes everything I do ever since. And since few people experienced that level of generative-ness, I often look like a fool.