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This seems more like walking up to a teller and asking nicely in a clever way if you could have all the money. Is it even a crime if the teller responds positiv

This seems more like walking up to a teller and asking nicely in a clever way if you could have all the money. Is it even a crime if the teller responds positively to your request?

jlgreco 14y ago
My suspicion is that yes, that would be a robbery if you ask in such a way that the teller actually gives you money. You could ask in such a way that it comes across as a joke ("Anything more I can do for you today sir?" "A million bucks and a winning lottery ticket would be nice"), but if it comes across as a joke then the teller isn't going to give you any money.. because they think it is a joke.
- randomdata 14y ago
  I think that is a reasonable interpretation, but sets a scary precedent. If you are selling something and I, the buyer, say "I'd really like to get this for free" and you respond, "okay, it's yours!" Can you come back and call on me being a thief later? > if it comes across as a joke then the teller isn't going to give you any money.. because they think it is a joke. I'd also add that vast majority of malformed requests are denied. Only computers who have a sense of humour, so to speak, comply to the abnormal requests. Computer security is much closer to this scenario than carrying a gun, I feel.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    Yeah, in the real world there are a lot of more factors to consider than just the wording. How threatening the victim/potential victim feels the other party is being is hugely important. For example, there is a world of difference between a panhandler asking you "Hey, can I have a couple dollars" in a populated touristy area during the day, and the same panhandler following you for several blocks at night before asking you that in an ally. One is just panhandling, but the other is effectively a mugging. Computers don't really have those sort of cues, so it becomes difficult to make reasonable comparisons between the two.
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laumars 14y ago
There's no nice way of saying you have a gun. Also handling stolen goods is a crime. So even if you didn't personally rob the bank, if you know the money is dodgy then you shouldn't accept it.

This seems more like walking up to a teller and asking nicely in a clever way if you could have all the money. Is it even a crime if the teller responds positively to your request?

jlgreco 14y ago

My suspicion is that yes, that would be a robbery if you ask in such a way that the teller actually gives you money. You could ask in such a way that it comes across as a joke ("Anything more I can do for you today sir?" "A million bucks and a winning lottery ticket would be nice"), but if it comes across as a joke then the teller isn't going to give you any money.. because they think it is a joke.

randomdata 14y ago
I think that is a reasonable interpretation, but sets a scary precedent. If you are selling something and I, the buyer, say "I'd really like to get this for free" and you respond, "okay, it's yours!" Can you come back and call on me being a thief later? > if it comes across as a joke then the teller isn't going to give you any money.. because they think it is a joke. I'd also add that vast majority of malformed requests are denied. Only computers who have a sense of humour, so to speak, comply to the abnormal requests. Computer security is much closer to this scenario than carrying a gun, I feel.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  Yeah, in the real world there are a lot of more factors to consider than just the wording. How threatening the victim/potential victim feels the other party is being is hugely important. For example, there is a world of difference between a panhandler asking you "Hey, can I have a couple dollars" in a populated touristy area during the day, and the same panhandler following you for several blocks at night before asking you that in an ally. One is just panhandling, but the other is effectively a mugging. Computers don't really have those sort of cues, so it becomes difficult to make reasonable comparisons between the two.

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laumars 14y ago

There's no nice way of saying you have a gun. Also handling stolen goods is a crime. So even if you didn't personally rob the bank, if you know the money is dodgy then you shouldn't accept it.