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How M.I.T. Ensnared a Hacker, Bucking a Freewheeling Culture
- gnosis 14y ago"'M.I.T. had to identify the hacker and assist with his apprehension in order to prevent further abuse,' the government argued in court." Or they could have just tried talking to him and giving him a verbal warning.
- mpyne 14y agoWhat would a verbal warning have been useful for? He already knew his behavior was unwanted, and that's what verbal warnings are for. He wasn't stupid, so the verbal warnings wouldn't have been the first time that he learned that there were actual laws against unauthorized network access. Besides, what's there to warn him about, he's 100% right in what he was doing, wasn't he? To hear it from the hacktivists, he did nothing wrong (and so there's nothing to warn him about). If he did do something to warrant a warning then he was already past the point of needing one.
- gnosis 14y agoFirst, by talking to him, MIT would have revealed that they knew who he was. That alone might have dissuaded him, as he was clearly acting under the assumption that he had successfully hidden his identity (or otherwise he would not have bothered to hide his face from the camera). Second, they might have learned his motives and either found another way for him to achieve his objective (perhaps through some sort of compromise) or persuaded him to stop. Third, they could have made clear to him what the penalties the government was ready to use against him in this case were, and that they had enough evidence to take him to court if he persisted. Any of these might have been enough to lead to a less tragic outcome than what wound up happening when they immediately threw the book at him.
- wpietri 14y agoThat's definitely not true. Everybody knows that speeding is a crime. But cops give warnings all the time if you didn't harm anybody and they think you're a reasonable person who will listen to them.
- rdl 14y agoI wonder what "activity from China" was. Also, looks like this went all the way up to the Chancellor, so it's not as if it was just the libraries or someone pushing for this.
- kanzure 14y ago"Counsel for the government understands that a number of external connections were made and/or attempted to the Acer laptop between January 4, 2011 and January 6, 2011, including from a Linux server at MIT and from China." ("Attempted" means his laptop probably had a public ip address assigned through dhcp and someone was knocking on ports from China. This "attempt" happens constantly 24/7 and is nothing to write home about.) "7. Exculpatory Evidence. In paragraph H of the government's letter, the government described but refused to provide almost all of certain exculpatory evidence, including evidence that, during the period covered by the indictment, persons other than Mr. Swartz at Harvard, MIT and China accessed the Acer laptop that was seized by the government, and persons other than Mr. Swartz at MIT and elsewhere were engaging in "journal spidering" of JSTOR data using a "virtual computer" that can be hosted by anyone at MIT. The government has no basis for withholding the electronic evidence described as exculpatory in its letter." http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/aaronsw-lost-pirate-treasure.txt http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/aaronsw-lost-pirate-treasure.txt
- denzil_correa 14y agoIn order to understand why this incident was even more shocking than usual, one just needs to read this snippet The arrest shocked friends of Mr. Swartz, as well as M.I.T. alumni. Brewster Kahle, an M.I.T. graduate and founder of the digital library Internet Archive, where Mr. Swartz gave programming assistance, wrote: “When I was at M.I.T., if someone went to hack the system, say by downloading databases to play with them, might be called a hero, get a degree, and start a company. But they called the cops on him. Cops.” I find the change of perspective - from hero to criminal - from MIT quite astonishing. I wonder if this incident makes current students wary about the change in MIT ethos.
- Anechoic 14y agoI wonder if this incident makes current students wary about the change in MIT ethos. As an alum, I don't see a change in ethos. During my time there ('91 to '95) things were open, but if you were doing something that the institute considered improper they asked you to stop. If you persisted in the behavior, they escalated the response. In my four years there, I witnessed this philosophy applied to drinking, trespassing in forbidden places (roofs for example), harassing behavior and yes, behavior on the network. Students often "explored" the network (myself included) but it was possible to go too far. (no, I don't think Swartz's transgressions warranted multiple years in prison and the whole situation is a tragedy)
- thaumaturgy 14y agoThere does seem to have been a change in the culture at MIT though. I can't find the article now, but I recall reading years ago about the student body being vocally opposed to one administrator in particular who didn't seem to grok the culture there. I did find an article from 2007 about a case that raised questions about how the university handled hacking (http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N4/hackers.html http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N4/hackers.html), and a follow-up from 2008 titled, "Hacking tradition under fire?" (http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N66/hacking.html http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N66/hacking.html) So clearly there's been some discussion a sea change in the culture at MIT. If true -- if it is even perceived to be true -- that will really be a problem for the school, as its status among technical universities owes a lot to its cultural respect for all forms of hacking.
- waterlesscloud 14y ago"At 9:44 a.m. the M.I.T. police were called in; by 10:30 a.m., the Cambridge police were en route, and by 11 a.m., Michael Pickett, a Secret Service agent and expert on computer crime, was on the scene. " Less than 1.5 hours from campus cops to Secret Service on scene.
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- MichaelSalib 14y agoThe Secret Service office in Boston is a 2 mile drive from MIT. Once you decide to bring in the police, it makes sense that they'll contact specialist law enforcement that focus on computer crimes, especially since the Secret Service is so close.
- wpietri 14y agoThe surprise isn't that they got their easily from their nearby office. It's that they so quickly decided to leave their office.
- MichaelSalib 14y agoIf I were a USSS officer specializing in computer crime and MIT called me after discovering a laptop that was used in an ongoing crime, I'd run like hell because I wouldn't want decisions to be made by the local Cambridge cops since they don't know anything about computer crimes. I mean, if you think the laptop represents a crime scene, you really don't want non-specialists handling it right?
- jonhendry 14y agoIf MIT does research related to military/defense technology, the possibility that such information was involved is probably enough to get the Feds interested, especially in the beginning.
- chaz 14y agoPer his own LinkedIn [1], Michael Picket, the Secret Service agent, is a member of the New England Electronic Crimes Task Force Forensic Laboratory. Their website [2] has long role for the lab, but it a) supports local law enforcement (like Cambridge PD), and b) includes seven area universities (Harvard, Dartmouth, and Babson are the three mentioned; MIT was not, but doesn't necessarily exclude them). My guess is it wasn't so much the Secret Service getting involved, but this DHS agency mandated by the USA PATRIOT act [3] made themselves available to major local organizations. Wouldn't be surprised if ECTF spent its first couple of years just meeting individual orgs one at a time for meets/greets. "Have a computer crime that isn't just your usual Craigslist scam? Give Mike over at the Boston ECTF a call, and he can help you out." [1] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-pickett/15/722/660 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-pickett/15/722/660 [2] http://www.secretservice.gov/ectf_newengland.shtml http://www.secretservice.gov/ectf_newengland.shtml [3] http://www.secretservice.gov/ectf.shtml http://www.secretservice.gov/ectf.shtml
- mithacker 14y agoSo not only did Aaron try to hide his crime, he ran away when police tried to talk to him about it? Why are we defending him again?
- herbig 14y agoYou created an account solely to post this dumb comment?
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- mithacker 14y agoWhat a worthless reply you posted.
- darkarmani 14y agoAre you really asking why he shouldn't go to jail for 35 years?
- pyre 14y agoPeople run all the time. When you get caught it's a fight or flight response. It doesn't have to be entirely rational. Usually it isn't (few people actually out-run the cops). This has been known for a while. It was reported (and discussed on HN) when he was first arrested.
- shail 14y agoI wish these stupid universities would soon stop mattering and go into oblivion.
- MichaelSalib 14y agoSo, is there anything in this story that we didn't know from the indictment? Or any bits of the indictment that have been confirmed by NYT reporters talking to sources who were there? If the NYT is just summarizing the indictment, this doesn't seem very helpful at all.
- SagelyGuru 14y agoWhy did MIT call in the secret service right away? The answer must lie with certain Charles M. Vest who, in 1990, became president of MIT and served in that position until December 2004. He is now MIT professor and president emeritus. He also happens to be a key member of the board of trustees of Ithaka, the owners of JSTOR. I would not hold out my breath for MIT investigation criticising its own President Emeritus.
- fredgrott 14y agoWhen the email intrusion was investigated for that top military general was not secret service called in conjunction with the FBI? Although I think Secret Service and FBI overlap in covering domestic computer break-ins
- mjn 14y agoI think it's a bigger change than with JSTOR specifically, so I'm skeptical that connection is the root cause. Another example, completely unrelated to IP, is that MIT used to quasi-tolerate tunnel/roof exploration, and in any case certainly didn't report students to the cops for it. But now they charge students with felonies for doing it: http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N4/hackers.html http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N4/hackers.html
- charlesfracchia 14y agoI think one of the keys of this incident resides in the article posted by thaumaturgy (http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N66/hacking.html http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N66/hacking.html): "At the meeting, Chancellor Phillip L. Clay PhD ’75 told the faculty that administrators were working with the district attorney’s office to move the felony trials out of the Cambridge court system to an internal Committee on Discipline process. The charges against the students were dropped on Feb. 28, when the prosecution filed nolle prosequi orders for the three students, indicating that they would not move forward on the charges." My personal opinion is that following identification by MIT and clarification of his intent, this should have been dealt with internally. While it was totally within the power of the prosecution to persist and press charges, the article shows an example where top MIT management did the right thing and insisted upon dealing with this internally (again: my opinion). As an MIT student, it worries me that a measured response was not achieved by MIT management in this case. Whether that means MIT should not have called the police and allow uncontrollable escalation or should have done a better job in convincing the prosecution to not press on, I cannot be sure. It is of course also possible that what happened is just a reflection of the prosecution's resolve to treat this with the full force of the law and whatever MIT management may have said fell into deaf ears. I am unsure what weight each of those has in this sad case and I deeply appreciate President Reif's initiative to carry an internal investigation into MIT's response. However, two other things bother me with regard to this case. First, it strikes me that the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is inadequately broad and allows for dangerous interpretations. Second, it is very scary to think that individuals in the prosecution are insentivized to press for the maximum amount of charges, with little to no regard for proportionality. I can only hope for a system in which sentences are not used as a metric for a prosecutor's competence. It seems to me that the concept of proportionality -as it is applied in armed conflict- is an essential one when talking about this whole issue. I fear that it is the root failing in this affair both in MIT's inability to treat this internally and later, in the prosecution's attitude towards the case.