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First, you seem to have made yourself an expert on what this proprietor could and could not have done. That amuses me. You're making yourself into an apologist

First, you seem to have made yourself an expert on what this proprietor could and could not have done. That amuses me. You're making yourself into an apologist for a guy who profited from a business relationship with known drug dealers and pimps. The owners of the motel are not limited by the constitution. The motel owner has been in business for a long time. You think he doesn't know drug activity when he sees it? He can and should refuse a room and ask offending or suspicious guests to leave. Of course, that would be bad for business. And that's why we're here.

hackinthebochs 14y ago
>You think he doesn't know drug activity when he sees it? He can and should refuse a room and ask offending or suspicious guests to leave. And this is exactly the point. It's not his place to determine if someone "looks like" a drug user. If he has no specific knowledge of instances of drug use, he has no reason or in my opinion any right to deny someone service. Yes, its obvious when drug use happens in an area. But that is a far cry from identifying individual instances of drug users or other criminals. I do not want society to empower business owners to deny me business because I "look like" a drug user. The fact that you're even suggesting that is absurd.
- encoderer 14y ago
  Business owners already HAVE and EXERCISE those rights. It's the right and responsibility of a business owner to keep his establishment clean and not profit on the back of obvious illicit activity. He can refuse service to anybody for any reason not protected by anti-discrimination legislation. And he knows that, it's why he addressed it in a quote early in that article -- claiming if he took responsibility and cleaned his motel up he'd be accused of discrimination. That's a cop-out.
  - hackinthebochs 14y ago
    >And he knows that, it's why he addressed it in a quote early in that article -- claiming if he took responsibility and cleaned his motel up he'd be accused of discrimination. That's a cop-out. Unless everyone he denied access to were white, he would open himself up to such litigation. It's not a cop-out. Making assumptions about someone's character based on how they look is fraught with landmines. It is unreasonable to expect a business owner to take on that responsibility.

hackinthebochs 14y ago

>You think he doesn't know drug activity when he sees it? He can and should refuse a room and ask offending or suspicious guests to leave. And this is exactly the point. It's not his place to determine if someone "looks like" a drug user. If he has no specific knowledge of instances of drug use, he has no reason or in my opinion any right to deny someone service. Yes, its obvious when drug use happens in an area. But that is a far cry from identifying individual instances of drug users or other criminals. I do not want society to empower business owners to deny me business because I "look like" a drug user. The fact that you're even suggesting that is absurd.

encoderer 14y ago
Business owners already HAVE and EXERCISE those rights. It's the right and responsibility of a business owner to keep his establishment clean and not profit on the back of obvious illicit activity. He can refuse service to anybody for any reason not protected by anti-discrimination legislation. And he knows that, it's why he addressed it in a quote early in that article -- claiming if he took responsibility and cleaned his motel up he'd be accused of discrimination. That's a cop-out.
- hackinthebochs 14y ago
  >And he knows that, it's why he addressed it in a quote early in that article -- claiming if he took responsibility and cleaned his motel up he'd be accused of discrimination. That's a cop-out. Unless everyone he denied access to were white, he would open himself up to such litigation. It's not a cop-out. Making assumptions about someone's character based on how they look is fraught with landmines. It is unreasonable to expect a business owner to take on that responsibility.