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Careful with your years. Teslas 2012 revenue will break $400mil. 2013 will likely break $1bil.

rgbrenner 14y ago
Aren't those the numbers that were released back in september? When they cut their revenue forecast from 600m to 400m? Tesla hasn't released any numbers for 2012 yet.. so unless you work there, you have no idea if they will break 400m for 2012. And even if you do work there, 1b for 2013 is pure speculation on your part.
- clarky07 14y ago
  Or he could be looking at public guidance given by the company or estimates from wall st. The estimate avg for 2012 is 402 mil. The avg for 2013 is 1.6 bil, with a low estimate of 1.4 bil. I'd say he's perfectly reasonable, and you are being rude and unpleasant. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=TSLA+Analyst+Estimates http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=TSLA+Analyst+Estimates
  - rgbrenner 14y ago
    So you're saying that because analysts on wall street say they'll make 1.4b in 2013, then it's not speculation? Sure.
    - gjkood 14y ago
      But isn't that the basis of the stock market? Analysts estimate and the CEO executes to meet or exceed those expectations. Are you just skeptical of Tesla meeting those expectations or all companies that are public? Do you have information that the Analysts don't have access to as the basis of your skepticism?
      - riffraff 14y ago
        it is the basis of the stock market, but that doesn't make rgbrenner statement ("this is only speculation") less true
        clarky07 14y ago
        It is a highly educated guess. The point is that he didn't just pull the number out of his ass. Clearly nobody knows the future for certain, and there isn't any way to know exactly how much revenue they are going to have in 2013, but using company guidance and analyst estimates seems like a pretty good starting point.
rgbrenner 14y ago
2012 Tesla revenue Q1 30m Q2 27m Q3 50m So you're saying that in q4, they will post 293m in revenue? Wow, that's some impressive BS you're willing to believe. http://news.investors.com/business/050912-610645-tesla-motors-electric-car-company-earnings.htm http://news.investors.com/business/050912-610645-tesla-motor... http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/tesla-motors-q2-revenue-model-s-production-update/ http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/tesla-motors-q2-revenue-mod... http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/05/tesla-q3-2012-earnings/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/05/tesla-q3-2012-earnings/
- jholman 14y ago
  Allegedly JP Morgan estimates $275.5M, and this analyst describes that as "tepid". http://seekingalpha.com/article/1072761-the-true-genius-of-tesla http://seekingalpha.com/article/1072761-the-true-genius-of-t... In fact, even the articles you link all point to a plan that involves $400M revenue for the year, and each article indicates that they're on-plan. Of course, the plan COULD be wrong, and it could be deceitfully wrong, but it seems utterly plausible, and apparently all analysts agree (within say 10%). And also you're being needlessly rude.
- ricardobeat 14y ago
  3.000 cars at $80.000,00 = 240m. Their initial estimate was 5k deliveries in the quarter.

Aren't those the numbers that were released back in september? When they cut their revenue forecast from 600m to 400m? Tesla hasn't released any numbers for 2012 yet.. so unless you work there, you have no idea if they will break 400m for 2012. And even if you do work there, 1b for 2013 is pure speculation on your part.

clarky07 14y ago
Or he could be looking at public guidance given by the company or estimates from wall st. The estimate avg for 2012 is 402 mil. The avg for 2013 is 1.6 bil, with a low estimate of 1.4 bil. I'd say he's perfectly reasonable, and you are being rude and unpleasant. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=TSLA+Analyst+Estimates http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=TSLA+Analyst+Estimates
- rgbrenner 14y ago
  So you're saying that because analysts on wall street say they'll make 1.4b in 2013, then it's not speculation? Sure.
  - gjkood 14y ago
    But isn't that the basis of the stock market? Analysts estimate and the CEO executes to meet or exceed those expectations. Are you just skeptical of Tesla meeting those expectations or all companies that are public? Do you have information that the Analysts don't have access to as the basis of your skepticism?
    - riffraff 14y ago
      it is the basis of the stock market, but that doesn't make rgbrenner statement ("this is only speculation") less true
      - clarky07 14y ago
        It is a highly educated guess. The point is that he didn't just pull the number out of his ass. Clearly nobody knows the future for certain, and there isn't any way to know exactly how much revenue they are going to have in 2013, but using company guidance and analyst estimates seems like a pretty good starting point.

rgbrenner 14y ago

2012 Tesla revenue Q1 30m Q2 27m Q3 50m So you're saying that in q4, they will post 293m in revenue? Wow, that's some impressive BS you're willing to believe. http://news.investors.com/business/050912-610645-tesla-motors-electric-car-company-earnings.htm http://news.investors.com/business/050912-610645-tesla-motor... http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/tesla-motors-q2-revenue-model-s-production-update/ http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/tesla-motors-q2-revenue-mod... http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/05/tesla-q3-2012-earnings/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/05/tesla-q3-2012-earnings/

jholman 14y ago
Allegedly JP Morgan estimates $275.5M, and this analyst describes that as "tepid". http://seekingalpha.com/article/1072761-the-true-genius-of-tesla http://seekingalpha.com/article/1072761-the-true-genius-of-t... In fact, even the articles you link all point to a plan that involves $400M revenue for the year, and each article indicates that they're on-plan. Of course, the plan COULD be wrong, and it could be deceitfully wrong, but it seems utterly plausible, and apparently all analysts agree (within say 10%). And also you're being needlessly rude.
ricardobeat 14y ago
3.000 cars at $80.000,00 = 240m. Their initial estimate was 5k deliveries in the quarter.