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"entirely undermined ... nothing short of insane." No it's not remotely 'insane', it's just mildly ignorant. As for 'entirely undermined', clearly the importa

by Steko 14y ago

"entirely undermined ... nothing short of insane." No it's not remotely 'insane', it's just mildly ignorant. As for 'entirely undermined', clearly the important takeaway from the article has nothing to do with which platform is at the leading edge. And if you follow the thesis that "retina" quality displays are what's encouraging flat ui design. it's hard to get away from the fact that Apple has been leading the way on that front.

Adaptive 14y ago
No, it is insane. Gruber positions himself as a voice of Apple/Design authority and is in a position to do so. For him to make the claims he does and title this article as it is, and then ignore the actual design trends is ridiculous. Another reason why he comes across as more Apple shill than journalist, which is a shame.
- Steko 14y ago
  You clearly don't know what 'insane' means and I wonder if we even read the same article. Gruber has been a very vocal critics of Apple's hard on for skeuomorphism for a long time. When he says the "timing of this trend, and the fact that iOS — and the iPhone in particular — is its leading edge, is not coincidental" he is most certainly not talking about the OS itself. This should be obvious because in the very next paragraph he says that "the whole default iOS look" is made up of "phony effects". But I guess if you're just here to get your HN rubber stamp upvotes by calling Gruber a one dimensional Apple shill you might have missed that.
  - camus 14y ago
    yep he should have used the word dishonest or flat out lying...
- gurkendoktor 14y ago
  Downvoted for the last sentence: Gruber explicitly writes that the "whole default iOS look [...] is optimized for non-retina displays", as in: Apple is doing this all wrong. If anything, his insane statement makes him a shill for third-party Apple developers. (And I would agree that he overestimates the universal love for Letterpress, but basically all of the blogosphere was fawning over it. How much $$$ has it raked in compared to Carcassonne, which is almost a parody of skeuomorphism?)
FredFredrickson 14y ago
A little late with the reply here, but I think that his thesis is bogus. So-called "retina" displays are not the reason for flat / modern UI designs moving away from skeuomorphism. I would argue it's just a new trend that naturally developed both from a wont to get away from the old, and from the relatively new sophistication of on-screen design tools (like CSS3, HTML5, etc).

by Steko 14y ago

Adaptive 14y ago

No, it is insane. Gruber positions himself as a voice of Apple/Design authority and is in a position to do so. For him to make the claims he does and title this article as it is, and then ignore the actual design trends is ridiculous. Another reason why he comes across as more Apple shill than journalist, which is a shame.

Steko 14y ago
You clearly don't know what 'insane' means and I wonder if we even read the same article. Gruber has been a very vocal critics of Apple's hard on for skeuomorphism for a long time. When he says the "timing of this trend, and the fact that iOS — and the iPhone in particular — is its leading edge, is not coincidental" he is most certainly not talking about the OS itself. This should be obvious because in the very next paragraph he says that "the whole default iOS look" is made up of "phony effects". But I guess if you're just here to get your HN rubber stamp upvotes by calling Gruber a one dimensional Apple shill you might have missed that.
- camus 14y ago
  yep he should have used the word dishonest or flat out lying...
gurkendoktor 14y ago
Downvoted for the last sentence: Gruber explicitly writes that the "whole default iOS look [...] is optimized for non-retina displays", as in: Apple is doing this all wrong. If anything, his insane statement makes him a shill for third-party Apple developers. (And I would agree that he overestimates the universal love for Letterpress, but basically all of the blogosphere was fawning over it. How much $$$ has it raked in compared to Carcassonne, which is almost a parody of skeuomorphism?)

FredFredrickson 14y ago

A little late with the reply here, but I think that his thesis is bogus. So-called "retina" displays are not the reason for flat / modern UI designs moving away from skeuomorphism. I would argue it's just a new trend that naturally developed both from a wont to get away from the old, and from the relatively new sophistication of on-screen design tools (like CSS3, HTML5, etc).