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I've seen LOTR, and I read the book (at an appropriate age too haha). I "know" The Hobbit is no less pompous and derpificated a conversion. Just looking at stil

I've seen LOTR, and I read the book (at an appropriate age too haha). I "know" The Hobbit is no less pompous and derpificated a conversion. Just looking at still images of it is enough for me. The good guys are good looking, the bad guys are ugly, music tells you what to feel every step along of the way, all of that crap; I know it, and I don't see anyone denying it. So I'm simply trusting my intuition on this, you know? How much shovelware do I have to take before I am allowed to skip one? I don't even think Tolkien was the greatest author ever (there's just so much random stuff in LOTR for example), but for me there is bounds and leaps more humanity in one of any of those books than in all LOTR movies combined; so unless I missed the dude remarking that LOTR was horrible, and that he is making The Hobbit differently to make up for it, I know that for me this thing is going to be neither subtle, nor beautiful. I just didn't want to point all of this out in detail because it makes me seem like such a snob, I'll take the "troll" thanks. If this stuff is fine art for you, I'll be rolling in the dirt having fun.

jholman 14y ago
> How much shovelware do I have to take before I am allowed to skip one? Before you skip one? As much as suits your preference, of course! But in this case, you took pride in offending other people, some of them with more information than you (e.g. they watched the movie). And you appear to be engaged in a protracted (3-comment) campaign to defend your analysis of the movie. It should be obvious that this campaign is doomed to failure, given that you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter. How much shovelware do you have to take before you successfully persuade other HN commenters of your analysis of the shovelware? Probably all of it. I only mention all this as a suggestion on how to better enjoy your time commenting on fora, and how to help others to better enjoy their time. Just a suggestion, YMMV. Maybe off-topic: I wasn't very impressed with the LOTR movie adaptation either, and I'm not bothering to see The Hobbit. But, you know, whatever. The books are available any time I want to re-read them. No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain.
- neumann_alfred 14y ago
  Well, I seem to have at least 5 peeps who silently agree -- two who vocally disagree. And you didn't mention anything in the movie, you know, pointing out a flaw in what I said; and you won't even watch it yourself - so what exactly are you berating me for? lmao... you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter Bullshit. Read it again, slowly this time. No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain. There is plenty of need. Nietzsche said "it's not your job to be a fly swatter", and I was all like "fuck you Nietzsche, you can't tell me what to do!". It's nice for you if that's not your thing, but not really relevant to me otherwise.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    I can understand an appreciation, but a need seems pathological.

jholman 14y ago

> How much shovelware do I have to take before I am allowed to skip one? Before you skip one? As much as suits your preference, of course! But in this case, you took pride in offending other people, some of them with more information than you (e.g. they watched the movie). And you appear to be engaged in a protracted (3-comment) campaign to defend your analysis of the movie. It should be obvious that this campaign is doomed to failure, given that you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter. How much shovelware do you have to take before you successfully persuade other HN commenters of your analysis of the shovelware? Probably all of it. I only mention all this as a suggestion on how to better enjoy your time commenting on fora, and how to help others to better enjoy their time. Just a suggestion, YMMV. Maybe off-topic: I wasn't very impressed with the LOTR movie adaptation either, and I'm not bothering to see The Hobbit. But, you know, whatever. The books are available any time I want to re-read them. No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain.

neumann_alfred 14y ago
Well, I seem to have at least 5 peeps who silently agree -- two who vocally disagree. And you didn't mention anything in the movie, you know, pointing out a flaw in what I said; and you won't even watch it yourself - so what exactly are you berating me for? lmao... you explicitly admit ignorance of the actual subject matter Bullshit. Read it again, slowly this time. No big need to attempt to offend passers-by with my disdain. There is plenty of need. Nietzsche said "it's not your job to be a fly swatter", and I was all like "fuck you Nietzsche, you can't tell me what to do!". It's nice for you if that's not your thing, but not really relevant to me otherwise.
- icebraining 14y ago
  I can understand an appreciation, but a need seems pathological.