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If you're tired of cPanel and looking for a lighter weight alternative, Virtualmin has served me well for the last couple of years and it's had IPv6 support sin

by bede 14y ago

If you're tired of cPanel and looking for a lighter weight alternative, Virtualmin has served me well for the last couple of years and it's had IPv6 support since 2010. The website doesn't inspire confidence, but the project appears well maintained, and even the GPL version (which I use) is very capable and has so far been rock solid. http://www.virtualmin.com/ http://www.virtualmin.com/

tptacek 14y ago
Virtualmin is also a YC company.
SwellJoe 14y ago
Thanks for mentioning, and using, Virtualmin! We're not very good designers, I'm afraid. We're aware of our deficiencies in the area of UX and design (in Virtualmin/Webmin/Cloudmin themselves and the websites), and have been working hard on a new design for Virtualmin (with outside help). It's slow going, due to the size and complexity of the codebase, at about half a million lines of code developed over 14 years, but it is happening. But, as you note, it is definitely well-maintained...we do a new release of Virtualmin and Cloudmin roughly monthly, and a new release of Webmin every couple of months. I'll also mention that we have an active community of several tens of thousands of users, and a full-time person working on providing great support in our forums and ticket tracker and on twitter, so it's usually very easy to get help, whether you're using the Open Source version or the commercial version. And, while Virtualmin is lighter weight than cPanel, it does quite a bit more, particularly for developers and technical users. Being Open Source, the types of folks who use it tend to be a lot more demanding of some types of functionality and behavior (like being able to edit config files outside of Virtualmin). IPv6 is one example of our users being a lot more demanding and technically advanced than cPanel; I'm shocked they could hold off this long. We were being hounded at conferences and in our forums about the issue years ago.
- zokier 14y ago
  I just went to poke around your demo, and noticed that some strings appear to be corrupted: http://imgur.com/9mXDr http://imgur.com/9mXDr that's the status view in the system information page.
  - SwellJoe 14y ago
    Thanks for the heads up. The demo gets fiddled with, and the language changed (which is what happened here; language changed to something your system isn't equipped to deal with; we still have a number of non-Unicode translations which can make systems without that language/typeface look goofy), pretty regularly, so it gets re-imaged a couple times a day. I'll kick off a re-image manually.
- bede 14y ago
  Oh, hi there! I would have been more gushing in my recommendation but I didn't want to sound like an advert. No the UI isn't brilliant, but at least it's lean and straightforward. I do wish the support forum wasn't so slow and clunky, but otherwise Virtualmin continues to amaze me. It's great to see features like S3 backup trickling down into the GPL version. I can't afford a Pro license (I'm at university), but were you to put up a donations page for GPL users, I'd certainly give a few £.

by bede 14y ago

tptacek 14y ago

Virtualmin is also a YC company.

SwellJoe 14y ago

Thanks for mentioning, and using, Virtualmin! We're not very good designers, I'm afraid. We're aware of our deficiencies in the area of UX and design (in Virtualmin/Webmin/Cloudmin themselves and the websites), and have been working hard on a new design for Virtualmin (with outside help). It's slow going, due to the size and complexity of the codebase, at about half a million lines of code developed over 14 years, but it is happening. But, as you note, it is definitely well-maintained...we do a new release of Virtualmin and Cloudmin roughly monthly, and a new release of Webmin every couple of months. I'll also mention that we have an active community of several tens of thousands of users, and a full-time person working on providing great support in our forums and ticket tracker and on twitter, so it's usually very easy to get help, whether you're using the Open Source version or the commercial version. And, while Virtualmin is lighter weight than cPanel, it does quite a bit more, particularly for developers and technical users. Being Open Source, the types of folks who use it tend to be a lot more demanding of some types of functionality and behavior (like being able to edit config files outside of Virtualmin). IPv6 is one example of our users being a lot more demanding and technically advanced than cPanel; I'm shocked they could hold off this long. We were being hounded at conferences and in our forums about the issue years ago.

zokier 14y ago
I just went to poke around your demo, and noticed that some strings appear to be corrupted: http://imgur.com/9mXDr http://imgur.com/9mXDr that's the status view in the system information page.
- SwellJoe 14y ago
  Thanks for the heads up. The demo gets fiddled with, and the language changed (which is what happened here; language changed to something your system isn't equipped to deal with; we still have a number of non-Unicode translations which can make systems without that language/typeface look goofy), pretty regularly, so it gets re-imaged a couple times a day. I'll kick off a re-image manually.
bede 14y ago
Oh, hi there! I would have been more gushing in my recommendation but I didn't want to sound like an advert. No the UI isn't brilliant, but at least it's lean and straightforward. I do wish the support forum wasn't so slow and clunky, but otherwise Virtualmin continues to amaze me. It's great to see features like S3 backup trickling down into the GPL version. I can't afford a Pro license (I'm at university), but were you to put up a donations page for GPL users, I'd certainly give a few £.