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They're still not removing the body scanners entirely though, just the ones that can't display a generic outline. The privacy violations and radiation exposure

They're still not removing the body scanners entirely though, just the ones that can't display a generic outline. The privacy violations and radiation exposure will continue.

jws 14y ago
…radiation exposure will continue… The L-3 Communications scanners are millimeter wave. They do not share the possible dangers of the backscatter machines.
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- hkmurakami 14y ago
  I don't doubt that health harms are minimal if any, but every time I go through these I get a very weird sensation in my torso which I'm just not fond of, so I've started opting out since December. I personally don't mind the patdown at all, and the TSA personnel have all been professional each time I've requested to opt out. I do wonder what would happen if a significant minority started opting out, since that would most likely clog the system pretty badly.
  - cheald 14y ago
    I've opted out every time I've ever ended up in a scanner line, but the millimeter wave stuff is absolutely significantly more safe than the backscatter, specifically because it doesn't use ionizing radiation. Of course, it's also easily defeated[1][2] by anyone that knows what they're doing, so it's not like it's keeping us particularly safe. [1] http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/1b-of-nude-body-scanners-made-worthless-by-blog-how-anyone-can-get-anything-past-the-tsas-nude-body-scanners/ http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/1b-of-nude-... [2] http://americablog.com/2010/01/german-tv-highlights-failings-of-body-scanners.html http://americablog.com/2010/01/german-tv-highlights-failings...
    - tsaoutourpants 14y ago
      That TSA Out of our Pants guy seems pretty smart!
- blahedo 14y ago
  From TFA: "TSA has contracted with L-3, Smiths Group Plc (SMIN) and American Science & Engineering Inc. (ASEI) for new body-image scanners, all of which must have privacy software. L-3 and Smiths used millimeter-wave technology. American Science uses backscatter."

They're still not removing the body scanners entirely though, just the ones that can't display a generic outline. The privacy violations and radiation exposure will continue.

jws 14y ago

…radiation exposure will continue… The L-3 Communications scanners are millimeter wave. They do not share the possible dangers of the backscatter machines.

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hkmurakami 14y ago
I don't doubt that health harms are minimal if any, but every time I go through these I get a very weird sensation in my torso which I'm just not fond of, so I've started opting out since December. I personally don't mind the patdown at all, and the TSA personnel have all been professional each time I've requested to opt out. I do wonder what would happen if a significant minority started opting out, since that would most likely clog the system pretty badly.
- cheald 14y ago
  I've opted out every time I've ever ended up in a scanner line, but the millimeter wave stuff is absolutely significantly more safe than the backscatter, specifically because it doesn't use ionizing radiation. Of course, it's also easily defeated[1][2] by anyone that knows what they're doing, so it's not like it's keeping us particularly safe. [1] http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/1b-of-nude-body-scanners-made-worthless-by-blog-how-anyone-can-get-anything-past-the-tsas-nude-body-scanners/ http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/1b-of-nude-... [2] http://americablog.com/2010/01/german-tv-highlights-failings-of-body-scanners.html http://americablog.com/2010/01/german-tv-highlights-failings...
  - tsaoutourpants 14y ago
    That TSA Out of our Pants guy seems pretty smart!
blahedo 14y ago
From TFA: "TSA has contracted with L-3, Smiths Group Plc (SMIN) and American Science & Engineering Inc. (ASEI) for new body-image scanners, all of which must have privacy software. L-3 and Smiths used millimeter-wave technology. American Science uses backscatter."