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I think this article speaks to why the case is getting so much attention. Lets presume for the sake of argument the trial didn't contribute to the suicide in t

by cbs 14y ago

I think this article speaks to why the case is getting so much attention. Lets presume for the sake of argument the trial didn't contribute to the suicide in the slightest. But it did cause us to look at the case, and you can't just un-see the fact that maybe you're not entirely comfortable with the way justice is being carried out in your name. We tend to trust in our legal system, one way or another. Even if that way is by ignoring it and assuming everything will sort itself out. Events like Aaron's suicide put it on your radar in a way that makes some of the public sit up and reexamine whether or not the power we have entrusted in others, to carry out our buisness, is being exercised as we would like it to be. Something smells like bullshit about the case, and just because a prosecutor with political ambition can issue a cover-your-ass statement isn't entirely comforting when faced with the convoluted web that extends beyond her to the entire nature of justice in the country. Welcome to being a citizen in a democracy, please stay engaged beyond this single case. edited: speeling

1337biz 14y ago
May I add one point: Please don't understand political engagement as a way of signing and submitting petitions. At least try attending a meeting of one of the big parties, whichever one you can connect with at least on some level, and help those people understand the issue at hand. From my experience most are no idiots but just ignorant and open to a reasonable dialogue.
aes256 14y ago
As much as my personal beliefs align with Aaron's and I am saddened by his passing, I think people are being more than a little disingenuous in their references to the charges he was facing. I'd understand the indignation if we were talking about an actual sentence, but these were just charges. The maximum possible sentence for those charges might be dizzying, but realistically, Aaeron was never going to be handed the maximum.
- justin 14y ago
  Giving the government the theoretical power to exact a tremendous punishment (30 years in jail + $1m fines) is terrible even if the full extent of that punishment is rarely or even never inflicted. Many others have pointed out that it can be used to get defendants to accept a plea bargain to reduce risk even when they don't believe themselves guilty, and increase the effect of systematic disenfranchisement of a class of minorities when used with selective enforcement.
- aswanson 14y ago
  I experienced "just charges" a few months ago after just getting steady employment a week prior. A cop in a suburban community was bored to shit and decided to run tags on the borrowed car which I was driving which wasnt registered with the state ($38 fee) which he proceed to tow about half a mile (cost $176) and charge me a days worth of work to appear in court to pay $100 in court costs to have the charges dismissed. Totally innocent. Charges are not free.
  - gw 14y ago
    Cops will often pursue petty things in hopes of discovering something more serious to charge you with. By impounding your car, they are clear to search it without your consent. This happened to me a few years ago in Maryland. As a new resident, I didn't realize I needed to fill out a form called FR-19. My registration was flagged, and an Anne Arundel cop pulled me over one evening. As luck would have it, my insurance paperwork was a few months out of date. Strike two. I was given several charges adding up to a year in jail, my car was towed, and I walked home. After buying new license plates to replace the ones he took, I picked my car up from the lot ($250+). Everything inside was strewn haphazardly; even the ash trays were turned up. You know what they were looking for. The good news? A few months later, the court dropped all charges when they realized I had insurance the whole time. No harm done!
    - aswanson 14y ago
      Right. The whole registration revocation was in their system with the car I was driving was because of an insurance lapse on the owner's part that was already taken care of, but either hadn't registered in their bullshit system yet or had and he just saw fit to fuck with me. Either way, too much power is entrusted to these people; from the federal to municipal, gov't is rife with grade A stupidity and abusiveness.
- wglb 14y ago
  What was the prosecutor's last offer two days before he died?

by cbs 14y ago

1337biz 14y ago

May I add one point: Please don't understand political engagement as a way of signing and submitting petitions. At least try attending a meeting of one of the big parties, whichever one you can connect with at least on some level, and help those people understand the issue at hand. From my experience most are no idiots but just ignorant and open to a reasonable dialogue.

aes256 14y ago

As much as my personal beliefs align with Aaron's and I am saddened by his passing, I think people are being more than a little disingenuous in their references to the charges he was facing. I'd understand the indignation if we were talking about an actual sentence, but these were just charges. The maximum possible sentence for those charges might be dizzying, but realistically, Aaeron was never going to be handed the maximum.

justin 14y ago
Giving the government the theoretical power to exact a tremendous punishment (30 years in jail + $1m fines) is terrible even if the full extent of that punishment is rarely or even never inflicted. Many others have pointed out that it can be used to get defendants to accept a plea bargain to reduce risk even when they don't believe themselves guilty, and increase the effect of systematic disenfranchisement of a class of minorities when used with selective enforcement.
aswanson 14y ago
I experienced "just charges" a few months ago after just getting steady employment a week prior. A cop in a suburban community was bored to shit and decided to run tags on the borrowed car which I was driving which wasnt registered with the state ($38 fee) which he proceed to tow about half a mile (cost $176) and charge me a days worth of work to appear in court to pay $100 in court costs to have the charges dismissed. Totally innocent. Charges are not free.
- gw 14y ago
  Cops will often pursue petty things in hopes of discovering something more serious to charge you with. By impounding your car, they are clear to search it without your consent. This happened to me a few years ago in Maryland. As a new resident, I didn't realize I needed to fill out a form called FR-19. My registration was flagged, and an Anne Arundel cop pulled me over one evening. As luck would have it, my insurance paperwork was a few months out of date. Strike two. I was given several charges adding up to a year in jail, my car was towed, and I walked home. After buying new license plates to replace the ones he took, I picked my car up from the lot ($250+). Everything inside was strewn haphazardly; even the ash trays were turned up. You know what they were looking for. The good news? A few months later, the court dropped all charges when they realized I had insurance the whole time. No harm done!
  - aswanson 14y ago
    Right. The whole registration revocation was in their system with the car I was driving was because of an insurance lapse on the owner's part that was already taken care of, but either hadn't registered in their bullshit system yet or had and he just saw fit to fuck with me. Either way, too much power is entrusted to these people; from the federal to municipal, gov't is rife with grade A stupidity and abusiveness.
wglb 14y ago
What was the prosecutor's last offer two days before he died?