It's never new information. Reality has been a harsh, harsh mistress for decades and decades now. It's what makes debating with ideological idealists so conten

It's never new information. Reality has been a harsh, harsh mistress for decades and decades now. It's what makes debating with ideological idealists so contentious IMO. There's no way to convince them to settle for anything other than "what's right", even if the only way to get to that state is to first settle for gradually less-wrong states in between. Even RMS had the pragmatism to start developing GNU on a proprietary OS with proprietary tools.