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Right now, it will affect all flights, including those not flying to/from the US. Only countries that are not members of the ICAO can still fly 787s after rece
by eduardordm 14y ago
Right now, it will affect all flights, including those not flying to/from the US.
Only countries that are not members of the ICAO can still fly 787s after receiving the notification. (Congo?)
ICAO defines the rules and countries can change/add some parts of it using amendments (PANS). But those about safety/certifications cannot be changed.
When a plane is certified in a country, its local safety board is responsible for its safety certifications, decisions made by this safety board are reflected to all countries.
So, in fact, NTSB has jurisdictions over boeing certifications worldwide. If a boeing airplane crashes in brazil, NTSB will also participate in the investigation. If an Airbus crashes in the US, french authorities will also be envolved.
EDIT: (as noted by binarycrusader)
This seems to be a immediate service bulletin. So, the planes can still fly, they just need to be serviced before the next flight.
- avar 14y agoSo can any national safety body of any member country of the ICAO ground an airplane model worldwide? Or can the U.S. do so in this case because Boeing is a U.S. company? What's the process a national agency goes through to ground an aircraft worldwide?
- Jtsummers 14y agoIn this case it's likely because the US FAA is the certifying body for the aircraft. If it were a Canadian or Russian or Chinese aircraft I'd expect their agencies to be similarly involved.
- eduardordm 14y agoOnly the country that emitted the certifications can cancel them. (models, not individual aircrafts). Examples of certifications DO-254 and DO-178, those are required for building avionics and general software. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B Cool stuff. When I quit flying I thought about building software for aviation. Didn't work out.
- mbq 14y agoI don't know the details but here in Poland they said in the news that European version of FAA (EASA I think) also grounded 787s; this way both LOT's 787s are grounded, one in US and one in Warsaw. EDIT: Here is the official statement (pl): http://www.lot.com/pl/web/newlot/press-info/-/asset_publisher/4MHh/content/lot-polish-airlines-statement?redirect=%2Fpl%2Fpl%2Fweb%2Fnewlot%2Fpress-info http://www.lot.com/pl/web/newlot/press-info/-/asset_publishe...
- notatoad 14y ago>the planes can still fly, they just need to be serviced before the next flight. Isn't that the same thing as grounding all the planes? They can still fly if they're already in the air, and they can only fly until they land. And then they need to be serviced, but Boeing doesn't yet know what needs to be done to repair the problem so they can't fly again until the problem gets solved and the plane gets serviced.