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Will this affect non-US airlines that flight to the U.S.? A 787 from a Polish airline (LOT) is about to land in Chicago. Will it be allowed to fly back to Polan
by qnk 14y ago
Will this affect non-US airlines that flight to the U.S.? A 787 from a Polish airline (LOT) is about to land in Chicago. Will it be allowed to fly back to Poland with passengers on board?
http://fr24.com/LOT3 http://fr24.com/LOT3
- dkl 14y agoI imagine that since it's on US soil, no. The FAA has jurisdiction here.
- binarycrusader 14y agoThe fine article addresses this point: Before further flight, operators of U.S.-registered, Boeing 787 aircraft must demonstrate to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) that the batteries are safe and in compliance So is it a "U.S.-registered" aircraft? And even if it is, it sounds like there may be a flight delay of hours at worst.
- zerovox 14y agoLOT aircraft are registered in Poland, so they shouldn't have problems with the FAA.
- jacquesm 14y agoIf you want to enter US airpspace or even fly to Canada, Mexico or even Colombia the FAA will most likely have a say in it.
- eduardordm 14y agoSo, it seems that the aircraft certifications are still valid, just the batteries need to be checked. That's just a immediate service bulletin then.
- lutorm 14y agoFAA airworthiness directives don't apply to all aircraft, only to those that are US-registered under certain categories.
- itsmeduncan 14y agoThis directive will allow the airlines to have DER-type people give permission for pilots to fly them to their home. This happens a lot with airplanes with issues.
- eduardordm 14y agoRight now, it will affect all flights, including those not flying to/from the US. Only countries that are not members of the ICAO can still fly 787s after receiving the notification. (Congo?) ICAO defines the rules and countries can change/add some parts of it using amendments (PANS). But those about safety/certifications cannot be changed. When a plane is certified in a country, its local safety board is responsible for its safety certifications, decisions made by this safety board are reflected to all countries. So, in fact, NTSB has jurisdictions over boeing certifications worldwide. If a boeing airplane crashes in brazil, NTSB will also participate in the investigation. If an Airbus crashes in the US, french authorities will also be envolved. EDIT: (as noted by binarycrusader) This seems to be a immediate service bulletin. So, the planes can still fly, they just need to be serviced before the next flight.
- avar 14y agoSo can any national safety body of any member country of the ICAO ground an airplane model worldwide? Or can the U.S. do so in this case because Boeing is a U.S. company? What's the process a national agency goes through to ground an aircraft worldwide?
- Jtsummers 14y agoIn this case it's likely because the US FAA is the certifying body for the aircraft. If it were a Canadian or Russian or Chinese aircraft I'd expect their agencies to be similarly involved.
- eduardordm 14y agoOnly the country that emitted the certifications can cancel them. (models, not individual aircrafts). Examples of certifications DO-254 and DO-178, those are required for building avionics and general software. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B Cool stuff. When I quit flying I thought about building software for aviation. Didn't work out.
- mbq 14y agoI don't know the details but here in Poland they said in the news that European version of FAA (EASA I think) also grounded 787s; this way both LOT's 787s are grounded, one in US and one in Warsaw. EDIT: Here is the official statement (pl): http://www.lot.com/pl/web/newlot/press-info/-/asset_publisher/4MHh/content/lot-polish-airlines-statement?redirect=%2Fpl%2Fpl%2Fweb%2Fnewlot%2Fpress-info http://www.lot.com/pl/web/newlot/press-info/-/asset_publishe...
- qnk 14y agoThe return flight was cancelled: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LOT4/history/20130117/0355Z/KORD/EPWA http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LOT4/history/20130117/035...