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Al Franken describes it best in Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: "They don't get it. We love America just as much as they do, but in a differenct way. Y
by neotek 14y ago
Al Franken describes it best in Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them:
"They don't get it. We love America just as much as they do, but in a differenct way. You see, they love America the way a four-year-old loves her mommy. [We] love America like grown-ups. To a four-year-old everything mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes mommy is bad. Grown-up love means understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad, and helping your loved one grow."
- grandalf 14y agoPresident Obama's war on whistleblowers is generally an attempt to silence the stories that present the US in an unflattering (though true) light. Just mentioning this in case anyone thinks that Franken's quote indicates that the mainstream left actually shares Chomsky's principled stance.
- ap22213 14y agoAs a 'mainstream lefty', I feel pretty safe in saying that Obama has generally been considered by many of us as right of center.
- mistermumble 14y agoAgree. In another time, he would be a moderate Republican, in the time when the Republican party allowed moderates.
- grandalf 14y agoWell this may be true, but the mainstream left gives Obama a TON of slack on many of his worst policies.
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- RyanMcGreal 14y agoObama is not "mainstream left" or any other kind of left. He's best characterized as a moderate conservative. In Canada, where I live, Obama's beliefs would be considered to the right of our Conservative Party, which is considerably to the right of the Canadian mainstream but managed to win the last election because the centre and centre-left votes were split among three or four parties.
- grandalf 14y agoNo disagreement here. I used that term b/c in the US the mainstream left broadly supports Obama and many consider him to be part of it.