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and you can't legally buy a Big Gulp. Seriously, and city/county/state govt that would do that, you can't trust them with your livelihood.

• smsm42 14y ago
  If the government thinks they need to tell you how big a drink you can have, and the citizens agree with it, there's something seriously wrong with both. OTOH, we have plastic bag ban in California and lightbulb ban federally, if I remember correctly, so it's not that easy nowdays to find a place to live where there's not something seriously wrong with it.
  • dragonwriter 14y ago
    You remember incorrectly. There is no statewide plastic bag ban in California (though some California municipalities have restrictions on plastic grocery bags). And there is no federal lightbulb ban (there is a federal rule providing energy efficiency standards for certain categories of lightbulbs which sets increasing standards including ones which many currently-popular incandescent bulbs would fail; the intent of the bill was to encourage development and sale of more efficient lighting devices, which it has done.)
    • smsm42 14y ago
      >>>> There is no statewide plastic bag ban in California OK, I agree - I should have said "in many places in California". Using weasel words like "restriction" - as if only "very dangerous assault bags" were prohibited but there was no problem with regular plastic bags - does not change the fact the bags are banned - in SF, in San Jose, in LA county and in some others. In fact, in most places the regulators themselves flat out call it a "ban" in their explanatory materials. >>>> And there is no federal lightbulb ban (there is a federal rule providing energy efficiency standards for certain categories Which is effectively a ban on certain - very widely used - categories of lightbulbs. The fact that the it is called more verbosely does not change the fact that it is a ban. The intent also does not change the fact - I'm sure every governmental ban has tons of supposedly good intents behind it, it does not stop being a ban because of it.
• w1ntermute 14y ago
  Under Bloomberg, NYC has turned from a police state into a full-fledged nanny state.
  • rayiner 14y ago
    To be fair, it's also much nicer to live in (at least for white people) than it ever has been. New York before it became a police state was basically Gotham City.
    • twoodfin 14y ago
      What's the marginal improvement under Bloomberg vs. Giuliani's last year in '01? I remember NYC as being in pretty good shape by that point. Has livability improved substantially because of the Bloomberg Nanny State stuff? Smoking bans are pleasant for some, but most everywhere has those now. Though I do have the impression that Bloomberg has done yeoman's work on public education.
  • koenigdavidmj 14y ago
    Unless you have certain melanin levels, in which case it is still a police state too.
    • w1ntermute 14y ago
      Oh, it's still a police state as well, no doubt. It has probably gotten worse under Bloomberg.