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> In short, a person looking for Partition Magic in 2013 is likely to suffer from Dunning-Kruger syndrome. I'm asking myself where I could have insulted you to

> In short, a person looking for Partition Magic in 2013 is likely to suffer from Dunning-Kruger syndrome. I'm asking myself where I could have insulted you to provoke such a reaction.

brudgers 14y ago
It's an assessment of your Windows expertise based upon the specifics the experience you relayed, not ad hominem. By your own admission your familiarity with the Windows landscape is based largely on experience gained more than seven years ago and with an obsolescent version of the OS. Dunning-Kruger effects are the result of one believing that they have more expertise than the do. With regards to the Windows ecosystem, this seems to be the case. One of the salient features of my experience with the Dunning-Kruger effect is that I don't recognize situations in which I am exemplifying it - and logic would dictate that I exemplify it more often than I am aware. As a crapware vector, partition magic is akin to Nigerian spam. Those who seek it are the ideal targets just as those who respond to the Nigerian banker's uncle are ideal candidates. Both pursue something too good to be true. I am not claiming that your experience isn't real. I am saying that its conclusion is not that of a Windows expert. http://sivers.org/below-average http://sivers.org/below-average
- to3m 14y ago
  I'm not convinced the conclusion is incorrect. The crapware situation on Windows IS horrible, whether you download any of it or not. Even if you manage to reliably avoid it, that still takes a non-zero amount of effort.
  - brudgers 14y ago
    Life requires a non-zero amount of effort. Avoiding crapware just requires sound practice and by definition less effort than dealing with crapware. As a point of comparison, the iTunes store contains loads of crap. This is not a reasonable basis for condemning iOS.
- kybernetyk 14y ago
  > Dunning-Kruger effects are the result of one believing that they have more expertise than the do. I never said I'm a Windows expert. Maybe I just hit the worst case scenario or maybe you need street smarts when surfing the web from a Windows system. Maybe being an OS X user made me soft and easy prey. But still - alone that a reputable download source (one of those that pop up on the first google page) tricks me into downloading a custom archiver utility and wraps installers with crapware doesn't really speak for the Windows eco system. Now it could be an isolated case but then again if crapware spreading wouldn't be successful people wouldn't be doing it. And I doubt that all crapware infections come from Partition Magic downloads on Windows XP. > I am saying that its conclusion is not that of a Windows expert. But the thing is that Windows experts are the minority of all Windows users.

> In short, a person looking for Partition Magic in 2013 is likely to suffer from Dunning-Kruger syndrome. I'm asking myself where I could have insulted you to provoke such a reaction.

brudgers 14y ago

It's an assessment of your Windows expertise based upon the specifics the experience you relayed, not ad hominem. By your own admission your familiarity with the Windows landscape is based largely on experience gained more than seven years ago and with an obsolescent version of the OS. Dunning-Kruger effects are the result of one believing that they have more expertise than the do. With regards to the Windows ecosystem, this seems to be the case. One of the salient features of my experience with the Dunning-Kruger effect is that I don't recognize situations in which I am exemplifying it - and logic would dictate that I exemplify it more often than I am aware. As a crapware vector, partition magic is akin to Nigerian spam. Those who seek it are the ideal targets just as those who respond to the Nigerian banker's uncle are ideal candidates. Both pursue something too good to be true. I am not claiming that your experience isn't real. I am saying that its conclusion is not that of a Windows expert. http://sivers.org/below-average http://sivers.org/below-average

to3m 14y ago
I'm not convinced the conclusion is incorrect. The crapware situation on Windows IS horrible, whether you download any of it or not. Even if you manage to reliably avoid it, that still takes a non-zero amount of effort.
- brudgers 14y ago
  Life requires a non-zero amount of effort. Avoiding crapware just requires sound practice and by definition less effort than dealing with crapware. As a point of comparison, the iTunes store contains loads of crap. This is not a reasonable basis for condemning iOS.
kybernetyk 14y ago
> Dunning-Kruger effects are the result of one believing that they have more expertise than the do. I never said I'm a Windows expert. Maybe I just hit the worst case scenario or maybe you need street smarts when surfing the web from a Windows system. Maybe being an OS X user made me soft and easy prey. But still - alone that a reputable download source (one of those that pop up on the first google page) tricks me into downloading a custom archiver utility and wraps installers with crapware doesn't really speak for the Windows eco system. Now it could be an isolated case but then again if crapware spreading wouldn't be successful people wouldn't be doing it. And I doubt that all crapware infections come from Partition Magic downloads on Windows XP. > I am saying that its conclusion is not that of a Windows expert. But the thing is that Windows experts are the minority of all Windows users.