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"...that one of these prosecutors would also take their life?" An eye for an eye. Being passive doesn't seem to bring any justice. If you invade Iraq based o

by spin 14y ago

"...that one of these prosecutors would also take their life?" An eye for an eye. Being passive doesn't seem to bring any justice. If you invade Iraq based on flimsy (at best) evidence, there are no consequences. If you sit in an office in Washington DC and order the torture of prisoners (which is still illegal in the US) there are no consequences. If you wreck the economy, there are no consequences. (This just in: HSBC gets a free pass for money-laundering.) But if you're a low-level geek (Bradley Manning, John Kiriakou, Aaron Swartz) then you will be crushed under the full weight of the law. Important People don't go to prison. Low-level geeks with a conscience go to prison. Or have their lives completely ruined. They have no empathy or respect for us? I have no empathy or respect for them. Harass her until she commits suicide. Washington is full of sick-and-twisted freaks. We should stand as a perfect mirror to their moral crimes.

phaus 14y ago
Bradley Manning stole over 700,000 classified documents and handed them over to a hostile foreign national. Not because he wanted to make the world a better place, but because he didn't like being in the Army. That is not responsible disclosure by any stretch of the imagination. Even if government employees were protected for blowing the whistle, what about the 690-something thousand documents that had absolutely nothing to do with anything sinister? Why didn't he even make the slightest attempt to bring light to the issue through official channels? You can't go to court and say that the system would have failed you if you didn't even give it a chance. I'm not saying he deserves life in prison or anything, but make no mistake, he's a traitor, not a patriot.
- spin 14y ago
  But when HSBC helps Iranians launder money, that gets a free pass? You said "I'm not saying he deserves life in prison or anything..." that's exactly my point. Important People get a free pass. Low-level geeks get crushed under the full weight of the law.
  - phaus 14y ago
    I get your point, I just can't stand seeing people mention him in the same breath as people who don't belong in prison at all. When uninformed people see them all lumped together like that, they are likely to start assuming things about the other guys. You are correct though, if you aren't important, you are pretty much screwed.

by spin 14y ago

phaus 14y ago

Bradley Manning stole over 700,000 classified documents and handed them over to a hostile foreign national. Not because he wanted to make the world a better place, but because he didn't like being in the Army. That is not responsible disclosure by any stretch of the imagination. Even if government employees were protected for blowing the whistle, what about the 690-something thousand documents that had absolutely nothing to do with anything sinister? Why didn't he even make the slightest attempt to bring light to the issue through official channels? You can't go to court and say that the system would have failed you if you didn't even give it a chance. I'm not saying he deserves life in prison or anything, but make no mistake, he's a traitor, not a patriot.

spin 14y ago
But when HSBC helps Iranians launder money, that gets a free pass? You said "I'm not saying he deserves life in prison or anything..." that's exactly my point. Important People get a free pass. Low-level geeks get crushed under the full weight of the law.
- phaus 14y ago
  I get your point, I just can't stand seeing people mention him in the same breath as people who don't belong in prison at all. When uninformed people see them all lumped together like that, they are likely to start assuming things about the other guys. You are correct though, if you aren't important, you are pretty much screwed.