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> makes me pretty weary of trusting anything I read on TheAtlantic ever again I agree. It's a shame. Sometimes they have great content. I'd be happy to pay

by DanBC2 14y ago

> makes me pretty weary of trusting anything I read on TheAtlantic ever again I agree. It's a shame. Sometimes they have great content. I'd be happy to pay for that content. I even post links to that content in various places. But the sleazy way they submit posts everwhere, and this, and etc, all make me much less likely to pay them anything.

batgaijin 14y ago
The Atlantic isn't what you think... http://shameproject.com/?s=atlantic&x=0&y=0 http://shameproject.com/?s=atlantic&x=0&y=0
- cheald 14y ago
  This site reads an awful lot like a bunch of left-wing conspiracy nutters. I don't know if it actually is or not, but that's the impression I get after scanning through it a bit. Not exactly a bastion of journalistic neutrality.
  - batgaijin 14y ago
    http://shameproject.com/report/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-life-work-of-americas-most-successful-propagandist/ http://shameproject.com/report/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-lif... I read this a while ago and I looked into it and it's pretty convincing, so the site meshes with me at least.
  - illuminate 14y ago
    There's some anger there, but it calls out shills as it sees it. It's not a "left wing conspiracy" if those being targeted are literally being paid to sell a narrative.
    - cheald 14y ago
      Certainly - I'll readily admit that I didn't dig deep enough to form a solid opinion. It was just my impression after a quick scan through several pages. It's also worth noting that I didn't call it a "left wing conspiracy" - I said "left-wing conspiracy nutters", which is quite different! I can appreciate the desire to call out shills, but if you're going to pin someone to the wall for being biased, it's best to try to do it in as unbiased and neutral a way as possible, IMO. Otherwise, you just end up looking like any other fringe whacko with a bone to pick with the people they don't like.
      - illuminate 14y ago
        The facts are ~usually~ pretty good, but I'll cop that the language and phrasing is very preach-to-the-choir unnecessary. That's somewhat The Exiled's shtick, though. I just roll my eyes, they often have interesting things amid the shrillness.
      - radicaldreamer 14y ago
        Yeah, their style is off-putting to some at first glance, but the Exiled (and now nsfwcorp.com, where a bunch of exiled contributors continue to write) is pretty solid with the investigative journalism.

by DanBC2 14y ago

batgaijin 14y ago

The Atlantic isn't what you think... http://shameproject.com/?s=atlantic&x=0&y=0 http://shameproject.com/?s=atlantic&x=0&y=0

cheald 14y ago
This site reads an awful lot like a bunch of left-wing conspiracy nutters. I don't know if it actually is or not, but that's the impression I get after scanning through it a bit. Not exactly a bastion of journalistic neutrality.
- batgaijin 14y ago
  http://shameproject.com/report/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-life-work-of-americas-most-successful-propagandist/ http://shameproject.com/report/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-lif... I read this a while ago and I looked into it and it's pretty convincing, so the site meshes with me at least.
- illuminate 14y ago
  There's some anger there, but it calls out shills as it sees it. It's not a "left wing conspiracy" if those being targeted are literally being paid to sell a narrative.
  - cheald 14y ago
    Certainly - I'll readily admit that I didn't dig deep enough to form a solid opinion. It was just my impression after a quick scan through several pages. It's also worth noting that I didn't call it a "left wing conspiracy" - I said "left-wing conspiracy nutters", which is quite different! I can appreciate the desire to call out shills, but if you're going to pin someone to the wall for being biased, it's best to try to do it in as unbiased and neutral a way as possible, IMO. Otherwise, you just end up looking like any other fringe whacko with a bone to pick with the people they don't like.
    - illuminate 14y ago
      The facts are ~usually~ pretty good, but I'll cop that the language and phrasing is very preach-to-the-choir unnecessary. That's somewhat The Exiled's shtick, though. I just roll my eyes, they often have interesting things amid the shrillness.
    - radicaldreamer 14y ago
      Yeah, their style is off-putting to some at first glance, but the Exiled (and now nsfwcorp.com, where a bunch of exiled contributors continue to write) is pretty solid with the investigative journalism.