> which is the reason why I think PHP is still way more popular than Rails. language being more popular than a framework! sure :) bring one framework that is

> which is the reason why I think PHP is still way more popular than Rails. language being more popular than a framework! sure :) bring one framework that is more popular then rails? google trends proof: http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=ruby%20rails,%20symfony,%20cakephp,%20code%20ignitor http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=ruby%20rails,%20symfon... (many people make searches w/o the 'ruby' search term, so rails wins by a larger margin) some proof here that php is a lot more popular then ruby: http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=ruby%20tutorial,%20ruby%20download,%20php%20tutorial,%20php%20download http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=ruby%20tutorial,%20rub... and java more popular then php... and WOW FLASH! http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=php%20tutorial,%20php%20download,%20java%20tutorial,%20java%20download,%20flash%20download http://www.google.nl/trends/explore#q=php%20tutorial,%20php%... we a should all use flash, it is the most popular, more so the java! gosh.. im trying to prove you're comparing apples with bananas and now i find out i should be coding in Adobe Flash (tm). </joke> anyway.. i believe php is only marginally more popular then rails, for stuff that involves "web app development". that's what rails made is for. php is used a lot for ftp-ing scripts to cheap webhosting, something is done a lot less with rails.