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> He gave his honest appraisal of what was happening in a current events story on a message board, based on the facts available to us at the time, which include
by thaumaturgy 14y ago
> He gave his honest appraisal of what was happening in a current events story on a message board, based on the facts available to us at the time, which included none of the outrageous details that have come to light in the last few days.
So, so true. I mean, it's not like people could have simply, y'know, avoided speculating publicly on another person's case when they didn't have all the facts.
No, don't go trying to direct the flames back at TechCrunch. Ed is consistently one of the nicest damn people on HN, and it's a bit of a shame that he ended up being the example that they pointed to. But, let's not pretend that HN isn't full of people that will wring an ocean out of their hands one day when it's popular and then go right back to slinging insults at each-other the next.
If this article results in a little bit of navel gazing for a few people here, great. I doubt that it will, though.
- andrewfelix 14y agoDo we know Ed doesn't suffer from depression? The hypocrisy of the TC article is disgusting. They're recklessly throwing stones at people who may be in delicate positions themselves. As far as I can tell the TC article was designed to elicit an emotional reaction without any consideration given to human cost. TC needs to do the naval gazing here.
- thaumaturgy 14y agoTC is far from my favorite online news thingy, and perhaps there is room for them to do some consideration too, but that doesn't mean that HN isn't also overdue for some introspection in how people are treated here. I don't know much about Ed, only met him briefly once, but that said, most people here (myself included) have gone out of their way to voice their support for him as a member here and regret that it was his comment that got hilighted on TC. I don't know how else TC could have pointed out this aspect of the HN community without picking on someone; in a way, it might be best that they picked on one of the most well-liked contributors here.
- dkl 14y agoThe hypocrisy of the TC article is disgusting. They're recklessly throwing stones at people who may be in delicate positions themselves. As soon as I saw it was written by Arrington, I hit the back button. That tells me all I need to know. He's an attention whore.
- larrys 14y ago"Do we know Ed doesn't suffer from depression?" This in fact happens on HN from my observation frequently. It goes like this. Someone says something and if people don't agree they downvote and sometimes say something nasty in return. Someone write a "Please Help" plea on HN and all the sudden everybody is nice and considerate and rolls out the red carpet (at least time times this happens that the plea gets voted up). People of course don't know if the person they are being nasty to is suffering from depression, having a bad day, just got fired etc. Unless of course they specifically announce that fact in the "Subject" of what they write (or in a blog post etc.) No need to ask why that happens (why people are nice when someone lays on their belly asking for help) because it's obvious. The question is why are people so quick to be a "dick" if someone doesn't reveal any weakness.
- thosegivenmuch 14y agoWhats the human cost here? Really? Because I can tell you that the human cost for someone else was suicide. Ed is not Aarons "family". Members of this website are not Aarons "family", Aarons biological family is his "family". A leading member of this site got caught being an ass, about a beautiful dedicated human being and now everyone wants to jump to his defense. Well, the human cost has been paid already, not by Ed, not by anyone commenting here, but by the person who was willing to engage in civil disobedience to make this world a better place. TC may be a schlock factory, but they nailed this one, and noone but Ed and the people defending him are to blame.