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> Porn isn't bad, it's a part of society now and has been for a long while Logically speaking, that doesn't mean it's not a bad thing. EDIT: Porn is indeed al

by Skoofoo 14y ago

> Porn isn't bad, it's a part of society now and has been for a long while Logically speaking, that doesn't mean it's not a bad thing. EDIT: Porn is indeed almost a staple of Western society, but note that Western culture is also very image-focused and has high rates of divorce and eating disorders among women.

a_bonobo 14y ago
>Porn is indeed almost a staple of Western society I present to you, old Japanese porn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s... And here's a documentary about ancient Egyptian porn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HttHvJ8Gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HttHvJ8Gc And here's a book about Mesopotamian porn: http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_erotic_reliefs_of_ancient_Mesopotami.html?id=9g83AQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_erotic_reliefs_of... What I want to say is that porn is not only a staple of Western culture, it's a staple of humanity.
- learc83 14y ago
  Just because porn existed doesn't mean it was a "staple" of society. It would have been too expensive for the average person to afford. Even 20 years ago porn was too expensive for the average person to afford very much of it.
  - a_bonobo 14y ago
    What I meant is that porn is not a "thing" of Western societies alone, but something of all societies, I think it doesn't matter how much there is.
  - illuminate 14y ago
    "Even 20 years ago porn was too expensive for the average person to afford very much of it." They could afford it, they could not afford to hoard and stream it at will. The mechanics have not changed significantly, even as we spend more time searching for "novel" mp3s and video. Do we have a "problem" with Netflix? Pandora? I spend constant (wasted) hours cataloging and retagging my music collection.
- pixl97 14y ago
  I couldn't post to one of the children under you, so I'll post here, agreeing with you. http://www.japanese-buddhism.com/giant-pink-penis-festival.html http://www.japanese-buddhism.com/giant-pink-penis-festival.h... The Japanese have had a penis festival since the 1600's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Scandinavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Scandinavia "The central part played by young children in the celebration emphasize the procreation aspect of the celebration" We've had celebrations and representations of sexuality throught history. The Romans took to this a climax (pun intended) http://www.mariamilani.com/ancient_rome/Ancient_Roman_Orgy.htm http://www.mariamilani.com/ancient_rome/Ancient_Roman_Orgy.h... Interesting thing is in most of these historical cases, there is a strong authoritarian push to stop these festivals to keep from corrupting people. This is the wheel of history coming around again.
- droidist2 14y ago
  Saying it's a staple of Western society is not saying it's not a staple of other societies.
nicholassmith 14y ago
True, I should have been clearer, I don't believe it is a bad thing by nature, and it's been part of society for long enough that we've not all become degenerates.

by Skoofoo 14y ago

a_bonobo 14y ago

>Porn is indeed almost a staple of Western society I present to you, old Japanese porn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s... And here's a documentary about ancient Egyptian porn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HttHvJ8Gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HttHvJ8Gc And here's a book about Mesopotamian porn: http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_erotic_reliefs_of_ancient_Mesopotami.html?id=9g83AQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_erotic_reliefs_of... What I want to say is that porn is not only a staple of Western culture, it's a staple of humanity.

learc83 14y ago
Just because porn existed doesn't mean it was a "staple" of society. It would have been too expensive for the average person to afford. Even 20 years ago porn was too expensive for the average person to afford very much of it.
- a_bonobo 14y ago
  What I meant is that porn is not a "thing" of Western societies alone, but something of all societies, I think it doesn't matter how much there is.
- illuminate 14y ago
  "Even 20 years ago porn was too expensive for the average person to afford very much of it." They could afford it, they could not afford to hoard and stream it at will. The mechanics have not changed significantly, even as we spend more time searching for "novel" mp3s and video. Do we have a "problem" with Netflix? Pandora? I spend constant (wasted) hours cataloging and retagging my music collection.
pixl97 14y ago
I couldn't post to one of the children under you, so I'll post here, agreeing with you. http://www.japanese-buddhism.com/giant-pink-penis-festival.html http://www.japanese-buddhism.com/giant-pink-penis-festival.h... The Japanese have had a penis festival since the 1600's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Scandinavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Scandinavia "The central part played by young children in the celebration emphasize the procreation aspect of the celebration" We've had celebrations and representations of sexuality throught history. The Romans took to this a climax (pun intended) http://www.mariamilani.com/ancient_rome/Ancient_Roman_Orgy.htm http://www.mariamilani.com/ancient_rome/Ancient_Roman_Orgy.h... Interesting thing is in most of these historical cases, there is a strong authoritarian push to stop these festivals to keep from corrupting people. This is the wheel of history coming around again.
droidist2 14y ago
Saying it's a staple of Western society is not saying it's not a staple of other societies.

nicholassmith 14y ago

True, I should have been clearer, I don't believe it is a bad thing by nature, and it's been part of society for long enough that we've not all become degenerates.