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Java update process on my 10.8 Mac: 1) Open Java Control Panel, see it says I have an update. Click "OK". 2) Reopen Java Control Panel because OK closes the w

Java update process on my 10.8 Mac: 1) Open Java Control Panel, see it says I have an update. Click "OK". 2) Reopen Java Control Panel because OK closes the window. This time click "Update Now" 3) After downloading 50MB another installer opens. Notice that it says 7u10 and not 7u11 (I was running 7u9). 4) Look back at Java Control Panel and see that it claims "Java Update was last run at 5:03 PM". 5) Reopen the JCP several times to try to force it to recognize that 7u11 is the latest, not 7u10. 6) Give up and install 7u10 7) Reopen JCP yet again. Success, 7u11 is available! 8) Click "Update Now" (not falling for your tricks again "OK" button) 9) http://d.pr/i/9UdC http://d.pr/i/9UdC 10) Curse and post this.

martinced 14y ago
On a Mac, find the JavaAppletPlugin.plugin file and move it to trash. That when, next month, the next 0-day exploit targetting Java applets comes out you'll be safe. It only disable applets, nothing else.
revelation 14y ago
Java update process on my Windows 7 machine: 1) Be notified of an update through the automatically running update check (probably with weak crypto and verification, given their track record...) 2) Clicking launches the MSI installer 3) "Java is wasting cycles on 6 billion (right now) insecure devices. Update now." 4) Remember to uncheck the Ask.com toolbar installer (Are you even trying at this point Oracle? Just kill it outright) 5) Installing 6) "Remember, Java is awesome, and for the moment its secure again" (Not a comparison, just to make the point that the "experience" is equally great on the other side)
- manishsharan 14y ago
  Cry me a river ! This is how we do it in Ubuntu land http://www.wikihow.com/Upgrade-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux http://www.wikihow.com/Upgrade-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux.
  - foohbarbaz 14y ago
    Nothing easier than Linux. 1. Download zip archive 2. Install into $HOME. 3. Switch symlink from old version to new. Done. I have 3 different JDKs installed at the moment.
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  - tacticus 14y ago
    there are PPAs out there for oracle java
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      Appears they're still on 7u10 though: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java Unfortunate that they're dragging their feet on this.
- joenathan 14y ago
  Including a toolbar with your product, especially with an update is like giving your customers the finger.
- Silhouette 14y ago
  Java update process on my Windows 7 machine: 1. Run "Ninite Java installer.exe". 2. Control panel -> Programs and Features -> Uninstall any old versions, if applicable. If anyone on Windows doesn't know about www.ninite.com, it's probably worth your time to take a look.
- pasbesoin 14y ago
  Hyperbole. IIRC, the installer dialog said "3 billion". ;-) I am happy for one thing. After having used the Control Panel feature introduced in 7u10 to allow disabling Java in all browsers via one checkbox, when I ran the 7u11 update and subsequently -- carefully! -- checked, I found that Java remained disabled in all the browsers on the system. Hallelujah! Finally -- much too late, IMO -- one can apparently (I'd continue to manually verify, for the near if not foreseeable future) disable Java in the browser(s), and the setting sticks. Prior to this, after each update, I'd have to go into all the browsers on the system and manually disable the Java plugins -- at least I had to until some, but not all, of the browser makers got smart and started ensuring that disabled Java plugins remained disabled, despite the Java installer's attempts. And even disabling the browser plug-ins was apparently not sufficient, for IE: http://krebsonsecurity.com/how-to-unplug-java-from-the-browser/ http://krebsonsecurity.com/how-to-unplug-java-from-the-brows... (see the section on Internet Explorer)

martinced 14y ago

On a Mac, find the JavaAppletPlugin.plugin file and move it to trash. That when, next month, the next 0-day exploit targetting Java applets comes out you'll be safe. It only disable applets, nothing else.

revelation 14y ago

Java update process on my Windows 7 machine: 1) Be notified of an update through the automatically running update check (probably with weak crypto and verification, given their track record...) 2) Clicking launches the MSI installer 3) "Java is wasting cycles on 6 billion (right now) insecure devices. Update now." 4) Remember to uncheck the Ask.com toolbar installer (Are you even trying at this point Oracle? Just kill it outright) 5) Installing 6) "Remember, Java is awesome, and for the moment its secure again" (Not a comparison, just to make the point that the "experience" is equally great on the other side)

manishsharan 14y ago
Cry me a river ! This is how we do it in Ubuntu land http://www.wikihow.com/Upgrade-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux http://www.wikihow.com/Upgrade-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux.
- foohbarbaz 14y ago
  Nothing easier than Linux. 1. Download zip archive 2. Install into $HOME. 3. Switch symlink from old version to new. Done. I have 3 different JDKs installed at the moment.
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- tacticus 14y ago
  there are PPAs out there for oracle java
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    Appears they're still on 7u10 though: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java Unfortunate that they're dragging their feet on this.
joenathan 14y ago
Including a toolbar with your product, especially with an update is like giving your customers the finger.
Silhouette 14y ago
Java update process on my Windows 7 machine: 1. Run "Ninite Java installer.exe". 2. Control panel -> Programs and Features -> Uninstall any old versions, if applicable. If anyone on Windows doesn't know about www.ninite.com, it's probably worth your time to take a look.
pasbesoin 14y ago
Hyperbole. IIRC, the installer dialog said "3 billion". ;-) I am happy for one thing. After having used the Control Panel feature introduced in 7u10 to allow disabling Java in all browsers via one checkbox, when I ran the 7u11 update and subsequently -- carefully! -- checked, I found that Java remained disabled in all the browsers on the system. Hallelujah! Finally -- much too late, IMO -- one can apparently (I'd continue to manually verify, for the near if not foreseeable future) disable Java in the browser(s), and the setting sticks. Prior to this, after each update, I'd have to go into all the browsers on the system and manually disable the Java plugins -- at least I had to until some, but not all, of the browser makers got smart and started ensuring that disabled Java plugins remained disabled, despite the Java installer's attempts. And even disabling the browser plug-ins was apparently not sufficient, for IE: http://krebsonsecurity.com/how-to-unplug-java-from-the-browser/ http://krebsonsecurity.com/how-to-unplug-java-from-the-brows... (see the section on Internet Explorer)