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Imagine a child who gets bullied in school regularly eventually can't take it anymore and kills themselves. Are you really so callous as to say, "there's nobod

by halviti 14y ago

Imagine a child who gets bullied in school regularly eventually can't take it anymore and kills themselves. Are you really so callous as to say, "there's nobody to blame here but the child"

niggler 14y ago
I realize the next comment may come off as insensitive, but I don't hear people focusing on the key question: Kids were bullied generations ago, yet it is only recently that bullying and suicide became a national crisis. What changed? Are bullies more aggressive than they were back then, or are more kids deciding that suicide is the answer, or were suicides related to bullying not reported?
- art3m1s 14y ago
  They have more ways to extend the torment of bullying beyond school grounds, e.g. on the internet. Imagine going home, looking for an escape from the bullying, only to be harassed further on the various social media sites, messaging protocols.
- cabalamat 14y ago
  Bullying has always existed; we'd just decided it matters more. Suicide has also always existed; we just care more now.
- DanBC2 14y ago
  Suicide is still a taboo for many people. Reporting a death as a suicide is still problematic for some people. Not that long ago the common practice was to record deaths as accidental or misadventure rather than suicide unless it was unequivocally suicide. Reported rates were lower because of this. Newspapers understood better their responsibility to be careful about reporting suicide; the Werther effect is real and has killed people. Children's rights are a relatively recent phenomenon. Bullying used to be seen as character forming or as an unstoppable part of childhood. The extreme end of bullying is more severe now. And bullies have access to technology which extends the bullying from the school to the bullied person's wider life. tl;dr yes, there is more awareness, and more reporting, and the bullying is worse, and more children choosing suicide.
- caf 14y ago
  Suicides in general were not reported very widely. It wasn't that long ago that a suicide was considered deeply shameful for the entire family, so they were usually kept quiet in the same way that an adulterous affair was. It's still par for the course, at least where I live, for media to use the code "Police say there were no suspicious circumstances" instead of baldly reporting the fact of a suicide.
sigzero 14y ago
The only problem I see...none of it would have happened except for the act that he CHOSE to do.

by halviti 14y ago

Imagine a child who gets bullied in school regularly eventually can't take it anymore and kills themselves. Are you really so callous as to say, "there's nobody to blame here but the child"

niggler 14y ago

I realize the next comment may come off as insensitive, but I don't hear people focusing on the key question: Kids were bullied generations ago, yet it is only recently that bullying and suicide became a national crisis. What changed? Are bullies more aggressive than they were back then, or are more kids deciding that suicide is the answer, or were suicides related to bullying not reported?

art3m1s 14y ago
They have more ways to extend the torment of bullying beyond school grounds, e.g. on the internet. Imagine going home, looking for an escape from the bullying, only to be harassed further on the various social media sites, messaging protocols.
cabalamat 14y ago
Bullying has always existed; we'd just decided it matters more. Suicide has also always existed; we just care more now.
DanBC2 14y ago
Suicide is still a taboo for many people. Reporting a death as a suicide is still problematic for some people. Not that long ago the common practice was to record deaths as accidental or misadventure rather than suicide unless it was unequivocally suicide. Reported rates were lower because of this. Newspapers understood better their responsibility to be careful about reporting suicide; the Werther effect is real and has killed people. Children's rights are a relatively recent phenomenon. Bullying used to be seen as character forming or as an unstoppable part of childhood. The extreme end of bullying is more severe now. And bullies have access to technology which extends the bullying from the school to the bullied person's wider life. tl;dr yes, there is more awareness, and more reporting, and the bullying is worse, and more children choosing suicide.
caf 14y ago
Suicides in general were not reported very widely. It wasn't that long ago that a suicide was considered deeply shameful for the entire family, so they were usually kept quiet in the same way that an adulterous affair was. It's still par for the course, at least where I live, for media to use the code "Police say there were no suspicious circumstances" instead of baldly reporting the fact of a suicide.

sigzero 14y ago

The only problem I see...none of it would have happened except for the act that he CHOSE to do.