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So organisations that rely on Java applets (such as some online banks and others) can expect a lot of support calls around now. Difficult to know what to sugge

by jiggy2011 14y ago

So organisations that rely on Java applets (such as some online banks and others) can expect a lot of support calls around now. Difficult to know what to suggest in such a circumstance, do you give the customer instructions about how to override this and let them risk getting pwned by some random site? Or do you just tell them they can't use the service anymore until they do a full rewrite?

freehunter 14y ago
I'm wondering what happens to corporate Macs where the users require Java in the browser to do their job. Is there any kind of trouble Apple could get into for removing this without warning when corporations have specifically installed what they need to work?
- kyllo 14y ago
  Yeah, my last employer did all their accounting in an Oracle ERP system that was built on Java Applets. They would be screwed right now if they were using Mac machines. I could be wrong about this, but it sounds like if you go in and edit Xprotect.plist manually to remove the Java plugin from the blacklist, Apple will just update it again and blow out your changes within a day or so.
  - dmix 14y ago
    Safari (the only one getting the block) isn't even the most popular browser on OSX. Chrome + Firefox have 10x more users than Safari on Macs.
    - biafra 14y ago
      Thank you for the clarification. I was wondering how Apple blocks plugins from other browsers. Both articles I saw did not care to mention that only Safari plugins (and probably third party browsers that use the mac webview like Fluid.app) are blocked.
- smackfu 14y ago
  We have a Java applet used by many large companies and we have found there are very few corporate Macs out there.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    Unfortunately while they may be rare, they do exist. My company has a hundred or so. We're a Java shop, and most of our stuff is home-grown (so it might not be on the list of sales for corporate Java packages). I'm not sure if we had any fallout from this or not.

freehunter 14y ago

I'm wondering what happens to corporate Macs where the users require Java in the browser to do their job. Is there any kind of trouble Apple could get into for removing this without warning when corporations have specifically installed what they need to work?

kyllo 14y ago
Yeah, my last employer did all their accounting in an Oracle ERP system that was built on Java Applets. They would be screwed right now if they were using Mac machines. I could be wrong about this, but it sounds like if you go in and edit Xprotect.plist manually to remove the Java plugin from the blacklist, Apple will just update it again and blow out your changes within a day or so.
- dmix 14y ago
  Safari (the only one getting the block) isn't even the most popular browser on OSX. Chrome + Firefox have 10x more users than Safari on Macs.
  - biafra 14y ago
    Thank you for the clarification. I was wondering how Apple blocks plugins from other browsers. Both articles I saw did not care to mention that only Safari plugins (and probably third party browsers that use the mac webview like Fluid.app) are blocked.
smackfu 14y ago
We have a Java applet used by many large companies and we have found there are very few corporate Macs out there.
- freehunter 14y ago
  Unfortunately while they may be rare, they do exist. My company has a hundred or so. We're a Java shop, and most of our stuff is home-grown (so it might not be on the list of sales for corporate Java packages). I'm not sure if we had any fallout from this or not.